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rob123 - Nov 15, 2007 - 10:05 AM
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It seems that Serjs Political ramblings have finally worn too thin for many, now that hes left System he doesnt have the shield of invincibility that he once had to speak his mind.

Whilst I love the guy, and I like his new solo album, in the u.k we do not wish to be told what to think. Especially left wing liberal politics which really wear thin on us these days.

It was this very reason ,plus some robotic stage dancing that led Serj to be booed off during his set at Sheffield Arena on November the 12th!

The songs themselves were fine and dandy and played out well and his singing was great, the problem lay with the simple fact, people especially in the u.k do not want to hear anti war, anti bush, anti establishment sentiments over and over, it gets contrived.

The album itself lyrically is predictably leftist politically, but once more, as I did with Soads genius I completely ignored most lyrics to get to the great music. But there are times when they try to force these ideas into you that you get annoyed, and Im afraid Serj will start to find out that if he wants to be enjoyed on his tours hes got to tone down all the speeches and political ravings, because no-one actually cares what he has to say about that, we just want to hear his great music!

It was a shame to see him get booed off, almost surreal.

-Rob

Commodore - Nov 15, 2007 - 10:22 AM
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Well, sucks for you, but Serj isn't just going to stop writing about what he believes, in the way he wants to, to please wankers like the people who booed him off stage. It's you not anyone's loss except the ones who don't want to hear it. But, I've read reviews of the show on the 12th, I don't recall anyone mentioning him being booed off. Nobody is telling you what to think. You perceive the song the way you wish, and obviously certain people don't know how to do that instead of taking the lyrics literally. He didn't force anything on anyone, but booing him to the point where he leaves the stage is uncalled for. And as a Foo fan, I can say most Foo fans are fucking tight-asses anyway, so this isn't too surprising. But, a lot of their fans think they're the epitome of lyrical genius, so Rolling Eyes

. By the way, I know certain people who actually enjoyed his set, so congratulations to them for ruining it for those guys, I guess?

PS: So, do you have anyone else who can back-up that he was booed off and it's not just that his set ended, or should I solely take your word for it?

rob123 - Nov 15, 2007 - 10:32 AM
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Sorry in my post I didnt mean he was booed off mid way I mean when he finished it he was Booed off.

Bear in mind I love Serj so I'm not supporting the booing, Im trying to give an unbiased reason as to why it happened.

Can you link me to these other reviews I would like to read them.

-Rob

Commodore - Nov 15, 2007 - 10:39 AM
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Oh, okay then. Either way, it's still messed up people would do that. But didn't he perform a song in the encore with the Foos at the Shef gig? Am I going crazy? confuse

Wonder if he even wanted to do it with them after that incident.
Yeah, I found them on the Foo-board - well, I skimmed through them. The only thread I can find at the moment is this one where they did say some people complained about him. It may be unbiased, but it's sad people can't see beyond the lyrics if they don't like the literal meaning and base it around their own life - it's what I try to do.

anniemannie3 - Nov 15, 2007 - 10:52 AM
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That is so mean! I can't believe he was "booed" off!!!A person has the right to speak his or her mind, and if people do not want to hear about it and show respect to the artist . . why attend their concert!? I feel so sorry for Serj . . . that is seriously dis-respect to the max!

Commodore - Nov 15, 2007 - 10:58 AM
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Well, since it technically wasn't his concert, you can't really make that a point. HOWEVER, I do agree with you. Everyone (read: most people) should be shown respect, whether they like what he was saying or not. Besides, he wasn't just singing about war, he said the theme was about the end of civilization - a very broad theme, but a very serious one - that affects every single person alive right now. Whatever, it's their rather stupid choice. Rolling Eyes

They don't have to like it, but they don't have to be dicks about it, either.

anniemannie3 - Nov 15, 2007 - 11:00 AM
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Hmm . . . but seriously . . that is so mean! How would they feel if they were singing their hearts out about something they believed in and people said it was crap and began booing!? I think Serj deserves a letter of apology Razz

Toxicteen - Nov 15, 2007 - 01:05 PM
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Did Dave Grohl say anything? Seems they've become pretty good friends lately.

Skit - Nov 15, 2007 - 01:11 PM
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^
My thoughts exactly...

Commodore - Nov 15, 2007 - 01:12 PM
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I'd like to know that as well. People didn't talk about the booing much, they just said people whined about him. Which, again, is why I'm a bit surprised that Serj came out to perform with them afterwards. Surprised, because if it was planned ahead of time, a bit taken aback that Dave didn't say fuck it, we won't do the song and it's their loss. And again, I wonder if Serj even wanted to come out when he was called, because I notice it took him longer to come out at Sheffield than it did in Manchester. But I saw the setlist, don't remember if it was under "encore" or not. Either way, it takes balls to perform for a crowd that seems to hate you. They should just consider themselves lucky I wasn't there, heads would've been rolling.

Skit - Nov 15, 2007 - 01:23 PM
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Did he actually come back out and perform with Foos afterwards?
I certainly wouldnt if I was him...

Maybe the boos we're exaggerated and it was only a select group of idiots booing...

Commodore - Nov 15, 2007 - 01:27 PM
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Yeah, I have two videos of the performance dated 11/12/07 (and the description said it was at Sheffield). I wouldn't have done it either, especially if Dave didn't say anything to them about it, but what the fuck. And yeah, there's a big possibility they were exaggerated. There's no telling if Serj even heard them, but I'm just going by the claims Rob made. Booed off, usually means the performer leaves before the set is over because the majority of the crowd hates them and wants them to leave (by booing or bottling, latter is worse for obvious reasons). Who knows. Just sounds like some of them didn't like him so they booed, which isn't that big of a deal considering.

Skit - Nov 15, 2007 - 01:34 PM
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Yeah, to me, it sounds like if was a few small groups of people booing and neither performers heard or cared about them.

itsmeMRJACK - Nov 15, 2007 - 01:51 PM
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If they heard the album before they went they should know what to expect...

Commodore - Nov 15, 2007 - 01:53 PM
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And they probably didn't, as most of them went to see the Foos and couldn't care less about Serj or that other band that opened.

AG - Nov 15, 2007 - 03:08 PM
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I think that's terrible.
No artist should be booed off the stage, unless they are too wasted to perform, or are
just fucking around on purpose.

EDIT: So now I'm confused. Did Serj get booed off or not?

Berjisär - Nov 15, 2007 - 03:19 PM
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ROFLMAO!!! Wow, cool. Sad I wasn't there. Maybe this was the sing Serj needed to come back down to earth.

But I really hope, that he won't be booed again. That was the ass-kick I wanted to give him, and he got it. I delete him from my list^^

BTW, I like that Premi8um Member thing.

AK - Nov 15, 2007 - 03:45 PM
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firstly, he isn't forcing you to think the way he does. he just says what he wants to say in hopes to make us more aware of what goes on around us. he isnt trying to force our opinions down our throat; rather, just make us more aware of our environment and to actually think about certain things.

and, as skit said, i highly doubt he was booed off the stage. perhaps you were around certain people who were booing. but i doubt the entire crowd was booing him off...i cant see that happening. i mean, they should be aware of what theyre gonna get when they go to see someone like serj.

Skit - Nov 15, 2007 - 03:50 PM
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Can I just say this was FOO FIGHTERS gig, Serj was merely supporting them so at least 50% of the crowd couldnt care less for Serj, they just want him off the stage so they can see the Foos.

And in some instances Serj is kinda ramming politics down are throats, Prison Song is a prime example of this, Serj also rants between songs live aswell, Im not sure if he does it on his solo tour but certainly with system he did...

Rainbow_Chile - Nov 15, 2007 - 04:48 PM
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rob123 wrote:

Im trying to give an unbiased reason as to why it happened.

Do you really, when you say all of this as well..

rob123 wrote:

That post is full of bias imo.
You can't speak for the whole of the UK. Don't say 'we' when you mean 'some people' or even 'I'.

And Serj hasn't left System, he's made a solo album. Not the 'same difference'.

koly39 - Nov 15, 2007 - 04:55 PM
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Maybe the booing is to show frustration for the SOAD break maybe...who knows

KnaveMurdok - Nov 15, 2007 - 05:45 PM
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If you didn't wanna hear Serj, why did you show up for Serj? People could have waited for like, an hour until his set was done and then showed up for the Foo Fighters. That's what I do whenever I'm going to a show and I don't care to sit through the opening act, I don't show up and try to disrupt them while they;re on stage, that's what MORONS do.

AVM - Nov 15, 2007 - 07:32 PM
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Thats a shame. If people boo him on Sunday, I'm going to tell everyone to shut the fuck up an go to the bar if you just want to boo him.

It's ignorant what they were doing, but I do kind of understand that some people don't want to hear politics- especially Foo Fighters fans. I don't have a problem with people not liking him constantly talking about politics, but booing him off stage when he gave a perfectly good musical performance is not fair.

seanstermonster - Nov 15, 2007 - 07:48 PM
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Well, to everyone who says that it is probably the Foo Fighters fans getting frustrated, that's fair enough. There's idiots everywhere. But the thing that makes me angry about what this Rob guy is saying, and what alot of music critics say is that you shouldn't get politics involved in music (or that it is at least wearing thin). The only reason I think that's complete bullshit is because you should just write about what you care about, and Im' pretty sure politics, civilization, etc. is what Serj cares about. If he really gave a shit about shoving his lyrics and ideas down your throat, he wouldn't say "it's your interpretation, not mine" when people ask about the meaning of his lyrics. While he may be somewhat left wing, I think he does a good job making it clear that his interpretation of his lyrics does not at all have to be your way. And in terms of the things he says in concert, he's there to perform, and be himself. If he was a mainstream manufactured pop star I'm sure he'd be holding a much more politically correct, "non-biased", perfect image like you do, Rob.

Skit - Nov 15, 2007 - 07:56 PM
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KnaveMurdok wrote:

Maybe they wanted to get good spots for the Foo Fighters, so they had to sit through Serj?

Thats what I often do at gigs.

I dont boo the opening acts though Mad

mattyK - Nov 15, 2007 - 08:59 PM
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^ xactlee

I still don't think he was booed off, probably just 7 drunk guys pretending to be cows or something

ang+serj - Nov 15, 2007 - 09:11 PM
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I think you could of put booed after his set instead of "booedoff". Becuse how you are saying it I think you are blowing it way out of proportion. ( I wasn't there ) but I think only there was just A FEW people around you booing NOT everyone.

Moonette - Nov 15, 2007 - 09:26 PM
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Assuming that Serj really was booed, I could understand why people attending the concert would not want to hear Serj Love's ramblings.

Yes, Serj does have a right to say what he wants and it is kind of him to try and make us aware, but when someone is preaching things we've heard over and over, we get kind of sick of it. Yes, the American gov't sucks. We already know that! We don't need Serj to remind us!

hackthesystem2 - Nov 15, 2007 - 09:33 PM
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I remember when I saw SOAD's third to last show, someone yelled "Fuck you Daron!" in between songs. Of course, everyone told him to shut up, but that's not the point.

systemjunky - Nov 15, 2007 - 10:47 PM
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Shame on those people who booed!!
I mean, come on,
Serj has his right to say what he wants to say (even if it can get repetive),
and if you don't like it you should still respect his thoughts

Commodore - Nov 15, 2007 - 11:47 PM
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Huh. Again, I don't think what he does can count as preaching, whatsoever. And it seems like people here still don't understand this was a FOO FIGHTERS GIG. FOO FUCKING FIGHTERS, OKAY? (Thank you, Skit, for also attempting to explain this.) But I see the truth comes out, many of you are tired of the political nature of his songs and think they are repetitive. Razz

Which I admit, they can be, but like I said previously, I don't always take the songs literally. If you ask me, I only hear 2 or MAYBE 3 songs on there that can count as 'political'. Whatever.

xlxcigaroxlx - Nov 16, 2007 - 04:33 AM
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I wanna see a video of the booing.. I saw one video added 1 day ago, that has the end of his set, and ppl r cheering.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TiaKItFJBQg

I'm not saying that this is THE show..I'm just saying I wanna see video. lol

in this vid FROM sheffield, he's "preaching" and they are cheering lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=S5HpiCjgqIU

sodomizer - Nov 16, 2007 - 04:49 AM
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well, it looks like people loved him...but for those who may have or did boo him..

FUCK YOU!

Commodore - Nov 16, 2007 - 04:49 AM
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Well, does anyone know what the last song he played was, and if it was recorded in full? Then, I think we can judge for ourselves. But in the first video, damn that's some crappy "cheering". Mm might have to do with the fact people said he was pretty boring until he did this performance. Some people, however, loved him, so I'd like to seed a video of his last song.

Vartanush - Nov 16, 2007 - 10:24 AM
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I don´t know anything about him being booed . but I read this thread and read a lot
from ppl being tired of Serj´s "political ramblings "...
well.......what he is saying about the end of civilization as it now exists is so true...
but I know from own experience that ppl react annoyed to bringers of bad news. and they don´t want to listen , because they seem to believe , what they don´t hear is not coming true...

so I have to admire Serj that he tries again and again to convince ppl that it is necessary to think about the topic .

vitaminfromthesky - Nov 16, 2007 - 11:32 AM
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^^ yeah, i know that sometimes it is annoying, like my friend dont me about that in every song he hears only something about problems and bad and it is disgusting. once i was reading one article in news why people dont like rock musicians and most said that it is boring because bands like this usually sings only about things what are negative and bad, so they say it is easy to sing about it. and that they cant call rock musicians artists because they sing always just this and anly this. well, Serj is not like that, and i love what he says, it makes me think and get out things that i agree or maybe i can make my own opinion. and about that civilization, i guess it is too much, and i completely disagree with him about civilization, i told you why.^^ he could say some things that he see is dead in civilization, but not call all civilization is gone. he is wrong in my opinion.

Vartanush - Nov 16, 2007 - 01:58 PM
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Quote:

We know this thing is ending, and what are we doing about it? We're just making plans to slow down its deat

He never said , tha tcivilization is gone - he says , it must come to an end , as it is livred today. that´s a wide ,wide difference in meaning....
and he means dwindling resources in and above earth . and nobody can deny resources are getting less and less . and what does humanity do , when they are gone .?
he thinks in wide time - spans , you know . not just about today and tomorrow ...but hundreds of years...
humankind seems not ready for this...

the quote was from here
http://soadfans.com/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-20654-start-0.htm

mom45 - Nov 17, 2007 - 12:06 AM
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Can I ask a question that is a bit off-topic? I haven't seen any "reviews" of any shows where Serj & the FCC opened for the Foo Fighters, but obviously some of you peeps here are in the know.

I was just wondering if they played the same setlist they did in the North American concerts where they headlined. Or did they play a shorter set as openers for the Foos? Anybody here got a setlist?

Or point me to a more appropriate thread, if there is one. Thanx.

Rainbow_Chile - Nov 17, 2007 - 12:11 AM
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Skit's going to the show tomorrow, so he'll be able to tell. Look for his review (later this weekend) in the Serj Tankian Reviews forum.

Serjs_SODA - Nov 17, 2007 - 12:23 AM
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what? well that sucks, poor serj

Commodore - Nov 17, 2007 - 12:40 AM
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mom45 wrote:

Well, I know for sure they played a shorter set, as in some shows they played for 45 minutes, and on others for 30 minutes. However, I don't know what songs they were.

mom45 - Nov 17, 2007 - 02:41 AM
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Guess I'll wait for Skit's review then. But thanks, my friends. Cool

AVM - Nov 17, 2007 - 10:53 AM
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I'm at the show tomorrow, so I'll probably do a review. I really, really cant wait.

Commodore - Nov 17, 2007 - 10:56 AM
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Good, looking forward to your review. I wonder how this audience reacts, since some crowds liked him more than others, and if what the OP says is true (we still don't know...), one hated him.

bael - Nov 17, 2007 - 10:27 PM
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He should have come to Canada. WHY ISN'T HE COMING TO CANADA!!!
Everybody loves him here and our money is worth more than american money now.

hackthesystem2 - Nov 17, 2007 - 11:51 PM
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^^But you hate hobos, so what's the point? Laughing

AVM - Nov 19, 2007 - 08:32 PM
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Judging by his accent when he introduced the FCC, he should go to Kazakhstan. Is Niiice.

daronrocks94 - Nov 21, 2007 - 04:31 AM
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poor serj but whats with the robotic stage dancing

SystemofaDownisHot - Nov 21, 2007 - 04:38 AM
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You can't say that no one cares about what he says, because I care about what he says very much. And I don't think Serj tells people what to do. Maybe that's how he came across, but he is allowed to speak his mind. That's what artists do and I think he should be respected for being brave enough to. He has a message to share and I think he should share it.

Commodore - Nov 21, 2007 - 04:42 AM
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^ That's what I tried to tell people on the Foo Fighters board... it's no use, many of them are ignorant, and only very few took a liking to him from his support acts. But they're Foo Fighters fans, take it in stride. Rolling Eyes

daronrocks94 - Nov 21, 2007 - 04:44 AM
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again poor serj/

mom45 - Nov 21, 2007 - 05:09 AM
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Meh, it's too bad if they didn't recognize the musical genius that is Serj and the FCC. But otherwise, I can't totally blame the Foo Fighter fans. I myself don't "boo" opening acts, because that's rude, but I have been known to applaud heavily for the opening acts, not because they were so great, but because I'm damn happy they are done so we can get on with the main act.

Can I sheepishly admit I did that with the Nightwatchman (Tom Morello) when he opened for Serj in Chicago on Oct. 12th?

sodomizer - Nov 21, 2007 - 05:30 AM
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I actually liked the watchamn, mom...I really did. I respect Tom, and his mom.

mom45 - Nov 21, 2007 - 05:37 AM
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I did too. And ofc his mom! But maybe not enough to buy his album.

Mostly I was just extremely anxious to see Serj & the FCC!

Commodore - Nov 21, 2007 - 05:38 AM
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I liked Tom's set more than I liked Serj's tbh. Just sayin'. Could have to do with the fact I was in the front w/ Tom, in the back when it was Serj's turn but people seemed to genuinely like Tom when he opened. Some of us, at least.

DantheSOADfan - Nov 21, 2007 - 04:33 PM
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Quinto wrote:

Yeah i was annoyed barley annoned on the boards liked him

But most of the guys on there annoy me anyway lol

booberella - Nov 26, 2007 - 04:18 PM
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I'm glad I never got a ticket for that show then I ended up going to his Nottingam gig and he rocked I managed to film his whole performance Smile

and I'm in the process of editing the footage and posting it on youtube the camera work is a bit wobbly cos the event staff kept giving me funny looks for filming, Shocked

probably cos I was using a proper camera Surprised

instead of a phone cos there were loads of people filming and taking with their phones who never got told off. I also managed to film about 15 minutes of the Foo Fighters but I got kicked out Crying or Very sad

and they made me delete some of my photos but I only deleted the ones that didn't turn out to well Laughing

and I hid my video camera so I didn't have to delete my videos, but they let me back in after they locked up my cameras. For those of you that want to see these videos look for the videos posted by myprettypie which is my youtube member name.

And I only have one thing to say to those bastards that booed Serj

HOW VERY Twisted Evil

DARE

YOU

MushroomKing9 - Nov 26, 2007 - 06:56 PM
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Well they are foo fighter fans what do they know about serj Evil or Very Mad

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