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DarkStar78 - Jun 17, 2008 - 12:36 PM
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Thats what I heard in the news today. Homosexual couples are from now on allowed to get married in the state of California. The first weddings have already taken place.
IMO thats a big step forward since its only legal in two states of the US at all and I hope many more will follow.
Whats your opinion on that?! 
CaylinSoo - Jun 17, 2008 - 12:54 PM
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God bless them.
Gay people suffer way too much discrimination. I hope that one day people will be as shocked that gay people weren't allowed to marry in the US as they should be that black or interracial couples weren't allowed to marry in the US. Black people weren't allowed to legally marry each other in some Southern States until the 20th century.
fritz - Jun 17, 2008 - 12:55 PM
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I think this shows how people aren't really true to their religion anymore, defying what has been written in the bible. Christianity has become more of a trend and more of people being so eager to try and show this "I'm a nice, perfect, loving person"-thing.
But anyway, nice for the gay population in the US, finally getting further with getting the same rights as everyone else, which is about fucking time 
/salute
(my little rant in the start is 100% against christianity and how out dated the religion is, it's better to just drop it all, throw organized religion out of the window, and just be real individuals believing whatever you want, I have nothing against gay people )
cozmachina - Jun 17, 2008 - 01:14 PM
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I thought this was already done??? 
DarkStar78 - Jun 17, 2008 - 01:18 PM
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Was it?! 
sorry... I did a serj 
but didnt find anything
Awean - Jun 17, 2008 - 01:21 PM
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I was late from lesson 'cause of that. *cause of the news.
Many people have said that California is kinda setting example for other states and it decisions have huge impact of other states' regulations.
I think one of the best comments I heard about topic was that if we legalize gay marriage we should make it legal to have several wifes, and that guy was serious, I was like wtf these things has do with each other.
People seems to be very happy of it, like I think that it was legal in California years back, but then it became illegal and all marriages nullified. Wasn't there now some risk that it could happen again? In November?
We talked about gay marriage in history class and it was funny to notice that basically every people, laws, have this liberalist base but still in cases like drugs, or gay marriage people are very conservative.
cozmachina - Jun 17, 2008 - 01:27 PM
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DarkStar78 wrote:
Was it?!
sorry... I did a serj
but didnt find anything
HypnotizingGirl - Jun 17, 2008 - 02:00 PM
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DarkStar78 - Jun 17, 2008 - 02:08 PM
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^^ hehe, I expected you to comment on it but its wise to keep your mouth shut in this case, huh?!
ultio - Jun 17, 2008 - 03:04 PM
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In the USA sexual themes are disputed and here in germany is everything ok about that. But if you talk here about voilence they all are crazy and forbide everything. Why the goverments just don't see that both things are fine? Gay marriage is fine for me, I don't see the problem with it. And if it's because religion the goverment shouldn't be so oldschool. Just a minority of people are still interested in god and that stuff, at least here in germany.
Alleycat - Jun 17, 2008 - 03:17 PM
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ITS THE SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE! RUN!
Awean - Jun 17, 2008 - 03:25 PM
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we need negative comments.
C'mon there have to be some better arguments than the Philosopher's Stone didn't mention gay marriage. oh yeah liberalist think I can do whatever I want as long as it won't harm anyone else's right to do whatever he/she wants. "If some fag marry that sweet guy, it's off from me I should have him I'm so much better..." hey shouldn't marriage be illegal in general then?
Lorax - Jun 17, 2008 - 09:45 PM
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Chalk one up for San Francisco.
onlysolution89 - Jun 17, 2008 - 11:39 PM
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this is a sign of america losing it's fundamental religious beliefs. they're letting homosexuality and other sinful acts corrupt the government and the people. the old ways are dying!
and i couldnt be happier
Vartanush - Jun 18, 2008 - 04:02 AM
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Haven´t there been protests from all those religious guys who feel offended
of marriage betwwen gays ?
4thofJuly - Jun 18, 2008 - 04:37 AM
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cozmachina wrote:
I thought this was already done???
I don't mind gay people to be honest, they're just being themselves. The way I see it, this will probably be one step closer for "others" to understand gay people better. I wouldn't mind having some hot lesbians for friends 
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 04:56 AM
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The good:
The bad:
kidding
The.Harlots.Roulette - Jun 18, 2008 - 05:37 AM
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YAY! 
I'm sorry, did I seem to excited about that? Darn it...and I broke up with my gf too...for a guy >.<
Bounce! - Jun 18, 2008 - 05:40 AM
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I think it's great! I bone dudes but I am pro-diversity and all. I think the Christians around the rest of the country should pull the fucking sticks outta their asses and make this legal elsewhere!
chop-suey-in-half - Jun 18, 2008 - 02:11 PM
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nowadays there is a term "positive discrimantion"
gay people are not uffering. weomen are not suffering. black people are not suffering anymore. at least as much as they did. the discrimiation problem has inverted - now you get a lot of shit just because the "suffering"ones learned how to use their sufferings.
yesetrday i was in an army poligon, nato base, a friend of mine works their.
(women are allowed in army)
here`s what i saw there - every fifth private was a women. some officers too.
The officer said that it`s their biggest problem. When they request the higher something to send them some people they get a lot of women
come on, she cant lift the missile turret, she knows shit about weapons, she`s bad in tatctics, only good for paperwork - thats what the high-status officer (dunno his rank) said to me.
and that is happening everywhere. you know the joke "Life is easy if you are a black pregnant gay with one arm"
sad joke. sad but sometimes true..
"positive discrimination" 0_o
Holysong - Jun 18, 2008 - 07:41 PM
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My nature makes me feel sorry for gay people, I don't like them or at least I can't understand them.
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 07:48 PM
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chop-suey-in-half wrote:
nowadays there is a term "positive discrimantion"
gay people are not uffering. weomen are not suffering. black people are not suffering anymore. at least as much as they did. the discrimiation problem has inverted - now you get a lot of shit just because the "suffering"ones learned how to use their sufferings.
I agree 100%.
HypnotizingGirl - Jun 18, 2008 - 07:49 PM
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Holysong wrote:
My nature makes me feel sorry for gay people, I don't like them or at least I can't understand them.
Soul'sRoulette - Jun 18, 2008 - 08:09 PM
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I will keep the comments running through my head about those two to myself.
I dislike the whole concept of marriage but I think it's only fair to grant the right to everyone. Equality is a concept impossible to realize but at least we can allow people to get married to whoever they want, same sex or not. If I wasn't with a guy right now and not so opposed to marriage in general, I'd get married to another woman. Love is love is love.
And please don't tell me there is no more discrimination. There are so many swines still out there refusing to give jobs to people because of their race or gender in places where it doesn't even matter. There are a lot of men in the army that can't do shit, either. But they're dudes, so that's okay?
But that's off topic.
partisan_3 - Jun 18, 2008 - 08:15 PM
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Quote:
nowadays there is a term "positive discrimantion"
gay people are not uffering. weomen are not suffering. black people are not suffering anymore. at least as much as they did. the discrimiation problem has inverted - now you get a lot of shit just because the "suffering"ones learned how to use their sufferings.
well the system has moved on from blurred vision of race and gender,
as always it is the working class who are discriminated against in all the western world
and their suffering has been since the beginning of time, crosses all races,religions and gender and yet when the answer to end the greatest human tragedy is presented it is claimed as evil
gay marriage or not the US can't hide the horrid lack of genuine equality and real freedom with small concessions, the words of Lord Salisbury ring true for the US :
"reform is the inevitable price paid by those-with so as those without will not seize everything"
Awean - Jun 18, 2008 - 08:42 PM
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HypnotizingGirl wrote:
Holysong wrote:
My nature makes me feel sorry for gay people, I don't like them or at least I can't understand them.
Could you explain me why?
I don't care what other people are like...you know...
Only good kinda 'discrimination' is that military service isn't compulsory for women here /off-topic
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 08:55 PM
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HypnotizingGirl wrote:
Holysong wrote:
My nature makes me feel sorry for gay people, I don't like them or at least I can't understand them.
you confuse me 
--------------------------
i think its really good that gays are starting to get more rights.
if we are living under a government that says we can have religious freedom,free speech,..etc, but then says we cant marry the on we love because they happen to be of the same sex...then, WTF?
We live in a obviously 'christian' america it seems...
hopefully other states will follow in California and Massachusetts footsteps and let gays marry.
HypnotizingGirl - Jun 18, 2008 - 09:57 PM
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rainbows_are_gay wrote:
HypnotizingGirl wrote:
Holysong wrote:
My nature makes me feel sorry for gay people, I don't like them or at least I can't understand them.
:thumright:
you confuse me :(
Who? Me?
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 10:00 PM
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HypnotizingGirl wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
HypnotizingGirl wrote:
Holysong wrote:
My nature makes me feel sorry for gay people, I don't like them or at least I can't understand them.
you confuse me
Who? Me?
yes you.
"couldnt be!, then who?"
sorry, couldnt help myself
HypnotizingGirl - Jun 18, 2008 - 10:05 PM
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rainbows_are_gay wrote:
HypnotizingGirl wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
HypnotizingGirl wrote:
Holysong wrote:
My nature makes me feel sorry for gay people, I don't like them or at least I can't understand them.
you confuse me
Who? Me?
yes you.
"couldnt be!, then who?"
sorry, couldnt help myself
why??? Why I confuse you??
Awean - Jun 18, 2008 - 10:11 PM
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@ HypnotizingGirl and/or Holysong
Please talk! now.
I wanna hear/read/see/understand your way of thinking...
please....
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 10:11 PM
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HypnotizingGirl wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
HypnotizingGirl wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
HypnotizingGirl wrote:
Holysong wrote:
My nature makes me feel sorry for gay people, I don't like them or at least I can't understand them.
you confuse me
Who? Me?
yes you.
"couldnt be!, then who?"
sorry, couldnt help myself
why??? Why I confuse you??
idk.
you all confuse me.
everyones confusing.
my brain hurts.
why would you feel sorry for gay people?
HypnotizingGirl - Jun 18, 2008 - 10:26 PM
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This is so offtopic... anyway... I promised myself that I won't post on this topic but.. I can't help myself...
Rainbows are gay... you're confusing me.. I mean.. your name.. you should be against gay people..
and.. ofcourse I feel sorry for them... when somebody declare himself as homosexual he chose the harder way of life... don't you think???
Anyway... I'm against gay marriage.. husband and husband, wife and wife.. yuck!
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 10:31 PM
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HypnotizingGirl wrote:
This is so offtopic... anyway... I promised myself that I won't post on this topic but.. I can't help myself...
Rainbows are gay... you're confusing me.. I mean.. your name.. you should be against gay people..
and.. ofcourse I feel sorry for them... when somebody declare himself as homosexual he chose the harder way of life... don't you think???
Anyway... I'm against gay marriage.. husband and husband, wife and wife.. yuck!
actually my user name is a inside joke i had with a friend... 
you dont 'choose' to be gay, and its only the harder life because of people who choose to make it the harder life for them.
and i dont see how gay marriage is yuck...
scissor
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 10:39 PM
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Oh blame the Christians, everyone, it's all their fault!
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 10:44 PM
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hackthesystem2 wrote:
Oh blame the Christians, everyone, it's all their fault!
who is blaming christians?
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 10:52 PM
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rainbows_are_gay wrote:
who is blaming christians?
Hmm, let's see.
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I think this shows how people aren't really true to their religion anymore, defying what has been written in the bible. Christianity has become more of a trend and more of people being so eager to try and show this "I'm a nice, perfect, loving person"-thing.
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my little rant in the start is 100% against christianity and how out dated the religion is
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I think the Christians around the rest of the country should pull the fucking sticks outta their asses and make this legal elsewhere!
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this is a sign of america losing it's fundamental religious beliefs. they're letting homosexuality and other sinful acts corrupt the government and the people. the old ways are dying!
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We live in a obviously 'christian' america it seems...
Sheesh.
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:00 PM
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oh.
i have one comment, that last quote [quoting me]
i wasnt blaming christians, i was pointing out how america seems to be based around christian morals .
Bounce! - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:06 PM
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^ SEEMS TO BE?
Dude we fucking ARE.
EDIT.
Hack, sorry dude, but the Christians are the ones who are pushing for gays to not be able to marry. Now I realize SOME of them aren't. But It's the christian priests who say gays shouldn't be able to share their love in holy matramony, and it's the christians who rally outside churches in California protesting the weddings.
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:09 PM
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Quote:
SEEMS TO BE?
Dude we fucking ARE.
yeah...
the only people banning same sex marriage helps is people against same sex amrriage.
shouldnt we be helping the people this affects?!
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:11 PM
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rainbows_are_gay wrote:
i wasnt blaming christians, i was pointing out how america seems to be based around christian morals .
That's not blaming? Wtf? 
There are plenty of religions that are less tolerant of gays than Christianity. But of course, no one even gives a shit about how gay people are stoned in many other cultures and treated legitimately terribly. NOOO, in the US they can't get married!!! oh noes! THE HORROR!!! Whereas people are whipped in other cultures, in our society, people can't go into a church and "kiss the bride!"
OH NO!!! SOME MOTHERFUCKER IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS GETTING HIS DICK CHOPPED OFF BECAUSE OF HIS SEXUALITY, AND YOU CAN'T GO TO A CHURCH AND SAY A BUNCH OF MEANINGLESS VOWS!!! Your life sucks!
You people need to get the sticks out of your asses. Christianity is a lot more tolerant than most religions.
/rant
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:14 PM
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hackthesystem2 wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
i wasnt blaming christians, i was pointing out how america seems to be based around christian morals .
That's not blaming? Wtf?
There are plenty of religions that are less tolerant of gays than Christianity. But of course, no one even gives a shit about how gay people are stoned in many other cultures and treated legitimately terribly. NOOO, in the US they can't get married!!! oh noes! THE HORROR!!! Whereas people are whipped in other cultures, in our society, people can't go into a church and "kiss the bride!"
OH NO!!! SOME MOTHERFUCKER IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS GETTING HIS DICK CHOPPED OF BECAUSE OF HIS SEXUALITY, AND YOU CAN'T GO TO A CHURCH AND SAY A BUNCH OF MEANINGLESS VOWS!!! Your life
sucks!
You people need to get the sticks out of
your asses. Christianity is a lot more tolerant than most religions.
WOW.
PISSY MUCH?
WHO PISSED IN YOUR CEREAL DUDE.
while it is true, gays are treated MUCH worse in other countrys, isnt america supposed to be the tolerant country? arent we supposed to be the 'freed for all'?
and to some people, marriage means ALOT.
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:16 PM
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Just saying, your "problems" living in America are 10 times better than those of someone living in Uzbekistan.
Bounce! - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:17 PM
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Meaningless? For some people those vows mean a fuckload, which is why it is such a debated problem in the USA. Now sure, we don't have a lot of cocks being chopped off. Pretty much, we've only got the KKK, which has like what? 5,000 people in it? I BELIEVE they are Christian too.
Now Christians aren't the very worst. But without organized religion, the whole fucking world would be a better place. Christians just happen to be the main religion attacked in this thread because it is about HOMOSEXUALS IN CALIFORNIA. Last I checked, there weren't too many Jews lighting torches and pitchforks off in San Fransisco.
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:19 PM
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its not my 'problem'.
im not gay
and i guess you think im unaware that other countrys/religions aren't as tolerant as united states?
its sad that the world cant be tolerant.
it would be a much better place...
Awean - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:21 PM
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HypnotizingGirl wrote:
This is so offtopic... anyway... I promised myself that I won't post on this topic but.. I can't help myself...
Rainbows are gay... you're confusing me.. I mean.. your name.. you should be against gay people..
and.. ofcourse I feel sorry for them... when somebody declare himself as homosexual he chose the harder way of life... don't you think???
Anyway... I'm against gay marriage.. husband and husband, wife and wife.. yuck!
You sound much worse than my dad, ok I understand how he feels about gays 'cause it was crime when he was young. People who were gays, had to dress like husbands and wife, act like husband and wife, like two women other very big, muscular, bold, good to fix things and in every other way able to do 'husband stuff' other was very girlish, afraid of thunder and so on...
I've met two gays in my life and other was 'normal' and other was like this cliche 'fab five' gay, taking care of his look a lot (they weren't dating btw) talking to them was kinda...it opened my mind. They are someone's kids and in the end (I hope) that parents want their kids to be happy, or satisfied with themselves. Like being a gay isn't disorder it won't make you ill. And I definately would rather live next to gay couple than some drunkard.
I talked with my friends about should adoption right give for gay couples, and it was like I had nothing against it but on the other hand I personally wouldn't want that my parents are gays, I can't help it, it just the way I feel. But I think if you have grown up with gay parents you'd get used to it.
In ancient Greece people admired male body so much that being a gay or have gay relationships was more than normal. It was common, there was nothing strange in it. Then came Middle Age and those fucking monks begun to censor writings and control people with their code of conduct. And we're still kinda there. Middle Age...
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:22 PM
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Bounce! wrote:
Meaningless? For some people those vows mean a fuckload, which is why it is such a debated problem in the USA. Now sure, we don't have a lot of cocks being chopped off. Pretty much, we've only got the KKK, which has like what? 5,000 people in it? I BELIEVE they are Christian too.
Last I checked, there weren't too many Jews lighting torches and pitchforks off in San Fransisco.
Last I checked there weren't too many Christians doing that either.
And the KKK cannot be classified as a "Christian" organization, since it is only comprised of a certain denomination of protestants, they don't just attack gay people and black people, you know, they attack Catholics too. They are against anyone who's not a straight white protestant like themselves.
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:23 PM
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Bounce! wrote:
Meaningless? For some people those vows mean a fuckload, which is why it is such a debated problem in the USA. Now sure, we don't have a lot of cocks being chopped off. Pretty much, we've only got the KKK, which has like what? 5,000 people in it? I BELIEVE they are Christian too.
Now Christians aren't the very worst. But without organized religion, the whole fucking world would be a better place. Christians just happen to be the main religion attacked in this thread because it is about HOMOSEXUALS IN CALIFORNIA. Last I checked, there weren't too many Jews lighting torches and pitchforks off in San Fransisco.
i love you.
WeAreOne - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:23 PM
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In Cuba, gays are sent to hard labour camps, for example.
I think Christianity is being "more tolerant" than other religions (at least in Western countries) because is being tolerated itself. If a certain type of Christians could control society, culture, and governments like they did up till the French Revolution, gays would still be sent to the gallows, just like in Iran.
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:29 PM
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Thank you.
This thread really blew up, I'm going to clear this up right now so people don't get the wrong impression.
I'm not against gay marriage, I'm all for equal rights for everyone.
I just get sick of it when people stereotype people because of their religion, you know, not all Christians hate gay people. And I hate it when people get that impression.
MyCockIsBiggerThanYours - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:29 PM
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Christians have not had anything good I mean even Jesus was a Jew!
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:30 PM
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^That's the ignorance I'm talking about.
MyCockIsBiggerThanYours - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:33 PM
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Sorry that was uncalled for.
Bounce! - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:33 PM
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Christianity was once good. But has anyone heard the album Aqua Lung by Jethro Tull? He is SO right. Christianity has been changed to suit the needs of those who follow it.
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:34 PM
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But not all Christians are ignorant douchebags!!!
That's all I'm trying to say!
MyCockIsBiggerThanYours - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:35 PM
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Bounce, you're my hero!
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:38 PM
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NOT.
ALL.
CHRISTIANS.
ARE.
BIGOTS.
gosh that's all I'm trying to say
Bounce! - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:40 PM
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I understand that. Not every single Christian is out there with a poster saying 'Hang the Homos!'
BUT.
CHRISTIANS.
ARE.
THE.
ONES.
CAUSING.
THE.
PROBLEM.
FOR.
THE.
GAYS.
IN.
THE.
USA.
fritz - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:40 PM
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I know what you mean Hack, and that's why I don't get why "good" people are christians, because the beliefs are shit tbh, especially when it comes to gay peoples rights. And I also agree with you about how it's much worse in some other countries, but still, it's the US and gay marriages that is the subject here
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:41 PM
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hackthesystem2 wrote:
Thank you.
This thread really blew up, I'm going to clear this up right now so people don't get the wrong impression.
I'm not against gay marriage, I'm all for equal rights for everyone.
I just get sick of it when people stereotype people because of their religion, you know, not all Christians hate gay people. And I hate it when people get that impression.
its nice to know your a tolerant person.
the thing is, most christians are tolerant of gays. but the MAJORITY are anti-gay and anti-same sex marriage.
but what makes me mad are the ones that get worked up over two same sex people, who love eachother, getting married.
and most of the christians i have met have been very intolerant of anything and everyone who didnt have theyre beleifs.
once, i went to this christian church with some neighbors who wanted em to go with the.
when i went with them, the people there were talking about all the horrid people who were going to 'hell'.
they bluntly said 'gays and atheists are going to hell' and that god and jesus didnt love them.
being atheist, that personally, makes me sad.
im glad im not involved with such people.
not saying all churches are like that but...
hackthesystem2 - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:41 PM
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Correction.
SOME christians are the ones causing the problems for gays in the USA.
HAPPY.
NOW?
MyCockIsBiggerThanYours - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:42 PM
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Damn straight! This isn't no fucking Uzbeckstain. ITS FUCKING USA.
fritz - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:48 PM
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rainbows_are_gay wrote:
hackthesystem2 wrote:
Thank you.
This thread really blew up, I'm going to clear this up right now so people don't get the wrong impression.
I'm not against gay marriage, I'm all for equal rights for everyone.
I just get sick of it when people stereotype people because of their religion, you know, not all Christians hate gay people. And I hate it when people get that impression.
its nice to know your a tolerant person.
the thing is, most christians are tolerant of gays. but the MAJORITY are anti-gay and anti-same sex marriage.
but what makes me mad are the ones that get worked up over two same sex people, who love eachother, getting married.
and most of the christians i have met have been very intolerant of anything and everyone who didnt have theyre beleifs.
once, i went to this christian church with some neighbors who wanted em to go with the.
when i went with them, the people there were talking about all the horrid people who were going to 'hell'.
they bluntly said 'gays and atheists are going to hell' and that god and jesus didnt love them.
being atheist, that personally, makes me sad.
im glad im not involved with such people.
not saying all churches are like that but...
The reason why I'm personally against gay people getting married is because, as you said, christians (not all ok Hack) believe gay people are going to hell, so I don't really get it... It's like jews wanting to fight for Hitler. A bit put on the edge but you get my point I guess
Bounce! - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:50 PM
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fritz wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
hackthesystem2 wrote:
Thank you.
This thread really blew up, I'm going to clear this up right now so people don't get the wrong impression.
I'm not against gay marriage, I'm all for equal rights for everyone.
I just get sick of it when people stereotype people because of their religion, you know, not all Christians hate gay people. And I hate it when people get that impression.
its nice to know your a tolerant person.
the thing is, most christians are tolerant of gays. but the MAJORITY are anti-gay and anti-same sex marriage.
but what makes me mad are the ones that get worked up over two same sex people, who love eachother, getting married.
and most of the christians i have met have been very intolerant of anything and everyone who didnt have theyre beleifs.
once, i went to this christian church with some neighbors who wanted em to go with the.
when i went with them, the people there were talking about all the horrid people who were going to 'hell'.
they bluntly said 'gays and atheists are going to hell' and that god and jesus didnt love them.
being atheist, that personally, makes me sad.
im glad im not involved with such people.
not saying all churches are like that but...
The reason why I'm personally against gay people getting married is because, as you said, christians (not all ok Hack) believe gay people are going to hell, so I don't really get it... It's like jews wanting to fight for Hitler. A bit put on the edge but you get my point I guess
Dude, Christians believe ANYONE who isn't Christian is going to hell. You may live your life being the best person you can be. Never doing anything wrong, always making the right choices, all that shit. Not having sex until you are married, never stealing, never lying. But, YOU DIDN'T PRAY TO GOD EVERY NIGHT?! Down to hell with you!!!
MyCockIsBiggerThanYours - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:51 PM
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Wow thats really true...hell for me.
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:53 PM
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fritz wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
hackthesystem2 wrote:
Thank you.
This thread really blew up, I'm going to clear this up right now so people don't get the wrong impression.
I'm not against gay marriage, I'm all for equal rights for everyone.
I just get sick of it when people stereotype people because of their religion, you know, not all Christians hate gay people. And I hate it when people get that impression.
its nice to know your a tolerant person.
the thing is, most christians are tolerant of gays. but the MAJORITY are anti-gay and anti-same sex marriage.
but what makes me mad are the ones that get worked up over two same sex people, who love eachother, getting married.
and most of the christians i have met have been very intolerant of anything and everyone who didnt have theyre beleifs.
once, i went to this christian church with some neighbors who wanted em to go with the.
when i went with them, the people there were talking about all the horrid people who were going to 'hell'.
they bluntly said 'gays and atheists are going to hell' and that god and jesus didnt love them.
being atheist, that personally, makes me sad.
im glad im not involved with such people.
not saying all churches are like that but...
The reason why I'm personally against gay people getting married is because, as you said, christians (not all ok Hack) believe gay people are going to hell, so I don't really get it... It's like jews wanting to fight for Hitler. A bit put on the edge but you get my point I guess
no, not really.
so...your anti-gay because christians beleive gay people are going to hell?
Awean - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:55 PM
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Hack, are you hardcore Christian ('s victim)? In that case I leave you alone. yes I'm happy
Just wanna say there's many type of Christians, here you born to be Christian, grown up as Christian, but it doesn't matter a shit. Beside school people hardly ever mention bible, Jesus anything that's very typical for Christianity, but on the other hand we're Chrstians so deeply that we don't even notice small Christian things, values, habits, they're just normal. What pisses me off, are hardcore Christians, very deeply Christians. Not more about them...
I'm not Christian, both of my parents left that fucking system years before I was born, who wants to pay 1 % of their salary to them.
Everything is ok when we're complaining about 'small' things...
Most of yankees are Christians...?
and what a fuck it hurts anyone if gays are able to marry each other?!?
I'm going to hell 'cause I'm not baptized, how cool is that?
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so...your anti-gay because christians beleive gay people are going to hell?
same question...
Bounce! - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:56 PM
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MyCockIsBiggerThanYours wrote:
Wow thats really true...hell for me.
Thanks for agreeing and all dude, but let's post with some SUBSTANCE, shall we?
Fritz-are you worried that if gays get married they will go to hell, so that's why you aren't for gays getting married?
fritz - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:56 PM
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rainbows_are_gay wrote:
fritz wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
hackthesystem2 wrote:
Thank you.
This thread really blew up, I'm going to clear this up right now so people don't get the wrong impression.
I'm not against gay marriage, I'm all for equal rights for everyone.
I just get sick of it when people stereotype people because of their religion, you know, not all Christians hate gay people. And I hate it when people get that impression.
its nice to know your a tolerant person.
the thing is, most christians are tolerant of gays. but the MAJORITY are anti-gay and anti-same sex marriage.
but what makes me mad are the ones that get worked up over two same sex people, who love eachother, getting married.
and most of the christians i have met have been very intolerant of anything and everyone who didnt have theyre beleifs.
once, i went to this christian church with some neighbors who wanted em to go with the.
when i went with them, the people there were talking about all the horrid people who were going to 'hell'.
they bluntly said 'gays and atheists are going to hell' and that god and jesus didnt love them.
being atheist, that personally, makes me sad.
im glad im not involved with such people.
not saying all churches are like that but...
The reason why I'm personally against gay people getting married is because, as you said, christians (not all ok Hack) believe gay people are going to hell, so I don't really get it... It's like jews wanting to fight for Hitler. A bit put on the edge but you get my point I guess
no, not really.
so...your anti-gay because christians beleive gay people are going to hell?
I did NOT say I'm anti-gay. I'm anti gay marriage. Because it goes against the religion, simple. My uncle is gay, I have a gay friend, etc. Nothing against them at all.
WeAreOne - Jun 18, 2008 - 11:56 PM
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Well I just don't think they're christians at all. I mean, they can believe they are, they can convince people that Christ said exactly that, but NO they aren't.
And I'm not Christian btw.
MyCockIsBiggerThanYours - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:01 AM
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No i think its ok to be married and gay but i was just agreeing with what they bounce said.
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:13 AM
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fritz wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
fritz wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
hackthesystem2 wrote:
Thank you.
This thread really blew up, I'm going to clear this up right now so people don't get the wrong impression.
I'm not against gay marriage, I'm all for equal rights for everyone.
I just get sick of it when people stereotype people because of their religion, you know, not all Christians hate gay people. And I hate it when people get that impression.
its nice to know your a tolerant person.
the thing is, most christians are tolerant of gays. but the MAJORITY are anti-gay and anti-same sex marriage.
but what makes me mad are the ones that get worked up over two same sex people, who love eachother, getting married.
and most of the christians i have met have been very intolerant of anything and everyone who didnt have theyre beleifs.
once, i went to this christian church with some neighbors who wanted em to go with the.
when i went with them, the people there were talking about all the horrid people who were going to 'hell'.
they bluntly said 'gays and atheists are going to hell' and that god and jesus didnt love them.
being atheist, that personally, makes me sad.
im glad im not involved with such people.
not saying all churches are like that but...
The reason why I'm personally against gay people getting married is because, as you said, christians (not all ok Hack) believe gay people are going to hell, so I don't really get it... It's like jews wanting to fight for Hitler. A bit put on the edge but you get my point I guess
no, not really.
so...your anti-gay because christians beleive gay people are going to hell?
I did NOT say I'm anti-gay. I'm anti gay marriage. Because it goes against the religion, simple. My uncle is gay, I have a gay friend, etc. Nothing against them at all.
why wouldnt you want gays to have a right to marriage?
its not like it affects you.
it affects the gays.
hackthesystem2 - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:18 AM
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Bounce! wrote:
Dude, Christians believe ANYONE who isn't Christian is going to hell.
Actually, that's completely inaccurate (at least regarding Catholicism). In fact, Pope Benedict recently came out and said that if you are a wholly good person, no matter what faith you are, you can go to heaven. (Of course, I'm only speaking for Catholics here)
And do you think that gay Christians do not exist? That's also entirely untrue. I know plenty of gay people who believe in God and attend church.
fritz - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:19 AM
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It's just the principle. It's not like I have this burning wish to never have homosexuals marry, it's just my humble opinion lol.
"its not like it affects you.
it affects the gays."
As I said it's my opinion on the subject. Why do you want them to get married in church then, it doesn't really affect you either if i'm not mistaken.
In the bible it very clearly states that the religion does not welcome gays, it's very simple. I think it's wrong to go against what the bible says when you're a christian. (which I am not btw, and I am NOT anti-gay either.)
Awean - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:21 AM
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Quote:
I did NOT say I'm anti-gay. I'm anti gay marriage. Because it goes against the religion, simple. My uncle is gay, I have a gay friend, etc. Nothing against them at all.
sorry, I might be tired or something, but are you saying that you don't want gay people to get married 'cause religion (which is usually based on some Holy Book) says so?
Look what has happen to other Bibble says things... like who still thinks that premarital sex is sin? Hardcore Christians...(at least)
And I'm not meaning to bash continuosly Christiany, it just happens to be the religion which I know the best, and have most bad memories...
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why wouldnt you want gays to have a right to marriage?
its not like it affects you.
it affects the gays.
I agree 100%
That's good argument...
CaylinSoo - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:24 AM
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Bounce! wrote:
Dude, Christians believe ANYONE who isn't Christian is going to hell. You may live your life being the best person you can be. Never doing anything wrong, always making the right choices, all that shit. Not having sex until you are married, never stealing, never lying. But, YOU DIDN'T PRAY TO GOD EVERY NIGHT?! Down to hell with you!!!
No, no, no, no, no ... Here's a good link to the apostle's creed: http://www.ccel.org/creeds/apostles.creed.html
As a Christian, I go for all of them but #9. That's largely because I believe the Church has done a lot to repress Jesus' teachings.
It isn't a Christian's place to judge others or even the sins of others because, as they say, all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. None are truly worthy of salvation, so by truly repenting of our sins and accepting Jesus' sacrifice for our sins we obtain salvation. At that point on, the Holy Spirit comes into our lives and we are covered, protected by the blood of Christ. We actually enter into eternity at that point. We remain in the flesh, which will pass, but we are changed. It is with the Spirit's help that we live the best life that we can.
That doesn't mean Christians aren't responsible for sins we commit after salvation, because we remain human. But you know, I don't remember the 10 commandments saying anything about anal or oral sex between same-gendered partners. But then, my memory isn't what it used to be.
Jesus instructed us all to love each other. And I don't see anything loving or Christian about hating gay people--many of whom are also Christian.
Also, if you read the New Testament closely, there are actually 5 judgments, the first of which occurred on calvary when death itself was judged and conquered. The fifth is when all (Christian and non-Christian) will go before God for the final judgment. And if you love God, our Creator, what's the big deal about that?
If you accept the first article of the Apostle's Creed, that God made heaven and earth and, by default, everything therein, then that means that God made both gay and straight people. (You know, I've always thought that there was something funny going on between King David and Saul's son in the Old Testament.)
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:25 AM
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fritz wrote:
It's just the principle. It's not like I have this burning wish to never have homosexuals marry, it's just my humble opinion lol.
"its not like it affects you.
it affects the gays."
As I said it's my opinion on the subject. Why do you want them to get married in church then, it doesn't really affect you either if i'm not mistaken.
In the bible it very clearly states that the religion does not welcome gays, it's very simple. I think it's wrong to go against what the bible says when you're a christian. (which I am not btw, and I am NOT anti-gay either.)
hey, for all you know, i may be packing my bags to move to cali and marry my lesbian lover bertha.
and while it doesn't affect me, i believe these people have a right to marriage.
and if im not mistaken, im pretty sure the bible is a book.\
"I think it's wrong to go against what the bible says when you're a christian."
not every gay is christian. so they wouldn't find it wrong to go against the bible.
and i doubt the christians that live by the bible have any plans on marrying there gay lovers.
hackthesystem2 - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:26 AM
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^ 
fritz - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:33 AM
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rainbows_are_gay wrote:
fritz wrote:
It's just the principle. It's not like I have this burning wish to never have homosexuals marry, it's just my humble opinion lol.
"its not like it affects you.
it affects the gays."
As I said it's my opinion on the subject. Why do you want them to get married in church then, it doesn't really affect you either if i'm not mistaken.
In the bible it very clearly states that the religion does not welcome gays, it's very simple. I think it's wrong to go against what the bible says when you're a christian. (which I am not btw, and I am NOT anti-gay either.)
hey, for all you know, i may be packing my bags to move to cali and marry my lesbian lover bertha.
and while it doesn't affect me, i believe these people have a right to marriage.
and if im not mistaken, im pretty sure the bible is a book.\
"I think it's wrong to go against what the bible says when you're a christian."
not every gay is christian. so they wouldn't find it wrong to go against the bible.
and i doubt the christians that live by the bible have any plans on marrying there gay lovers.
Why would you want to marry in church if you're not religious at all? Another example of christianity becoming more and more of a trend and going far away from what it used to be.
As far as I know gays can marry, just not in church. At least they can in Norway (for convinient reasons like if for example your partner dies and he owns your house, you have no right to take it, his family has, and you gotta go through shit loads of stuff like papers, meetings, that stuff)
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:37 AM
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fritz wrote:
rainbows_are_gay wrote:
fritz wrote:
It's just the principle. It's not like I have this burning wish to never have homosexuals marry, it's just my humble opinion lol.
"its not like it affects you.
it affects the gays."
As I said it's my opinion on the subject. Why do you want them to get married in church then, it doesn't really affect you either if i'm not mistaken.
In the bible it very clearly states that the religion does not welcome gays, it's very simple. I think it's wrong to go against what the bible says when you're a christian. (which I am not btw, and I am NOT anti-gay either.)
hey, for all you know, i may be packing my bags to move to cali and marry my lesbian lover bertha.
and while it doesn't affect me, i believe these people have a right to marriage.
and if im not mistaken, im pretty sure the bible is a book.\
"I think it's wrong to go against what the bible says when you're a christian."
not every gay is christian. so they wouldn't find it wrong to go against the bible.
and i doubt the christians that live by the bible have any plans on marrying there gay lovers.
Why would you want to marry in church if you're not religious at all? Another example of christianity becoming more and more of a trend and going far away from what it used to be.
As far as I know gays can marry, just not in church. At least they can in Norway (for convinient reasons like if for example your partner dies and he owns your house, you have no right to take it, his family has, and you gotta go through shit loads of stuff like papers, meetings, that stuff)
who says they will have a church wedding?
maybe they want to do it at a relatives house, park...etc
and im not really marrying 'bertha'. i was just trying to make a point.
These Ads are getting ridiculous.
...but the idea of a homosexual slave does sound kick ass...[not]
fritz - Jun 19, 2008 - 12:42 AM
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ROFL
Well I think I've made my point clear enough, no need for further discussion as we're all pretty stubborn lol.
cozmachina - Jun 19, 2008 - 10:02 PM
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Dammit rainbows, that post scared me.
I just wanna say, I'm glad it's legal for them, because this bullshit about 'I don't support gay marriage, but civil unions is ok... ' it's bullshit, because they're supposedly not discriminating, but giving them every right to live as a couple except for being married.
Stupid zhit.
Mnky - Jun 19, 2008 - 10:55 PM
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I have gay friends.
Some really nice guys, and the girls, eh, are just obsessed with sex.
Thing is, I dont think the nice guy gay guy ever actually hooks up with another gay guy. I think its just some guy on a sexual rompe.
These nice guys always get burnt, and I've never been a friend with one of the sexual rompe guys, so I cant compare to much.
Nice gay guys, that i know, just dont really like other nice gay guys, except for sex. They never want to date them.
They do want to date that sexual rompe gay doode though.
I just havent seen a real relationship from the gay friends I have, girl or boy.
I havent seen enough to think its more than sexual desires to be honest.
So in conclusion, I think gays are just like straight people.
I know of two couples who are older and gay, and lasted the route.
Thats just as much as straight people to be honest. I dont know many that have lasted the route.
I suppose in the end, I dont support marriage at all. Its usually just about sex.
Straight or Gay.
If sex wasnt the determining factor, and it was all about love, then I'd give it two thumbs up.
Bounce! - Jun 19, 2008 - 11:07 PM
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Marriage isn't only about sex!
I am not married and I am no virgin...and I know a couple who are quite young, married, and rarely have sex.
For many people its the ultimate way to express your ever-lasting love for one another.
Awean - Jun 19, 2008 - 11:24 PM
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Marriage is law thing, rights, privileges that you get when you marry some one is main reason to get married, I think in some cases at least.
If you feel like your love is not going to make your relationship last without marrying, it's not even worth it.
CaylinSoo - Jun 20, 2008 - 03:19 PM
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Absolutely, Awean. The legal protection and benefits of marriage can be very important. Two very dear friends of mine died of AIDS years ago. John C. died in 1989 and Marc E. died in 1992. They lived, loved and suffered together. Just a couple of days after John's memorial service, his siblings and in-laws showed up at Marc's door with a policeman, and took a bunch of the stuff from Marc's apartment. Some of it was John's, some of it was Marc's. Marc was left with just a couple of pictures of his recently deceased partner. The family never told Marc they were going to do this. They never asked his permission to come sort through John's remaining stuff--and there was absolutely nothing Marc could do about it. Marc was furious and really hurt. The policeman actually held Marc down physically while the family ransacked his apartment.
Also, one thing that expedited my marriage was that my husband was suffering from an old injury and the doctor wouldn't even perform an MRI without insurance coverage. We had planned on marrying anyway, but we sped it up so that I could put my guy on my insurance and have his medical needs met.
fritz - Jun 22, 2008 - 11:04 PM
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This is pretty fucking funny though, and also pretty true:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sKWo3Q-UZ8
rainbows_are_gay - Jun 23, 2008 - 12:14 AM
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^
Awean - Jun 23, 2008 - 12:23 AM
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That guy had some very good 'arguments'
fritz - Jun 23, 2008 - 12:29 AM
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I agree with him though, how sacred is marriage nowadays really?
"Who wants to marry a midget" ROFL
HypnotizingGirl - Jun 26, 2008 - 07:47 PM
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It was on tv... after gay marriage became legal in California gays started campaign "Protect every kiss".
Campaign's video "stop anti-gay violence" should convince governments to make gay marriage legal in every country.. but.. the video is forbidden (or censored).. anyway.. here's the video.. it's very interesting...
http://www.rtl.hr/vijesti/prikaz/15496/
~*[claire]*~ - Jun 26, 2008 - 10:15 PM
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Don't you hate gay people? ^^
HypnotizingGirl - Jun 26, 2008 - 10:50 PM
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~*[claire]*~ wrote:
Don't you hate gay people? ^^
Ofcourse I do..
My point is.. gays are.. like plague.. they have rights in california and now they think they must have rights all over the world...
last year.. i saw a gay guy wearing a t-shirt „hail to the perversion, viva la gay pedophilia“... isn't that sick??? And you all support people like him...
Soul'sRoulette - Jun 26, 2008 - 11:12 PM
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Who now here said they supported pedophiles? Or are we rounding up all the "sickos" and throwing them in one sack again?
A few days ago I received a wedding invitation from friends in California. They are both in their early thirties, they've been together since high school-if anyone can actually have a decent, lasting marriage it is those two.
Benheh - Jun 27, 2008 - 12:43 AM
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HypnotizingGirl wrote:
~*[claire]*~ wrote:
Don't you hate gay people? ^^
Ofcourse I do..
My point is.. gays are.. like plague.. they have rights in california and now they think they must have rights all over the world...
last year.. i saw a gay guy wearing a t-shirt „hail to the perversion, viva la gay pedophilia“... isn't that sick??? And you all support people like him...
Woah woah woah. Just because I accept homosexuals, does not mean I accept pedophiles.
CaylinSoo - Jun 27, 2008 - 05:39 PM
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HypnotizingGirl wrote:
~*[claire]*~ wrote:
Don't you hate gay people? ^^
Ofcourse I do..
My point is.. gays are.. like plague.. they have rights in california and now they think they must have rights all over the world...
last year.. i saw a gay guy wearing a t-shirt „hail to the perversion, viva la gay pedophilia“... isn't that sick??? And you all support people like him...
Why do you hate gay people? What have they ever done to you?
There's a huge difference between gay people and pedophiles.
Awean - Jun 27, 2008 - 05:42 PM
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HypnotizingGirl wrote:
last year.. i saw a gay guy wearing a t-shirt „hail to the perversion, viva la gay pedophilia“... isn't that sick??? And you all support people like him...
How do you know he was gay?
HypnotizingGirl - Jun 27, 2008 - 06:24 PM
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Awean wrote:
HypnotizingGirl wrote:
last year.. i saw a gay guy wearing a t-shirt „hail to the perversion, viva la gay pedophilia“... isn't that sick??? And you all support people like him...
How do you know he was gay?
Beacuse he participated in gay pride parade...
~*[claire]*~ - Jun 27, 2008 - 06:33 PM
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Oh don't start this again Dora, because you know I'll rip you to shreds like last time.
Gay people aren't paedophiles.
Gay people are good people.
Gay people tend to be more accepting of other people than straight people.
Gay people are STILL HUMAN.
I actually went to Gay Pride in Birmingham a few weeks ago and it was lovely! I was given a lollipop by a policeman, these men in underpants were talking to me and my fiance, and the lovely lesbians floating about were checking me out as well as the gay guys checking out my Paul. It was fun. Got a free whistle, some lube and loads of free chocolate. Great day out.
I recommend it to everyone!
sdsj3291 - Jun 27, 2008 - 07:25 PM
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......do animals in the animal kingdom that arent gay think marriage is still sacred?
i wonder if animals are as repulsd by gay gopher butt sex as are the homophobes of america
jq623 - Jul 15, 2008 - 11:37 PM
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eh
im not 100 percent for gay marriage, but I'll still tell the average homophobe to stop bashing on the gay community in general.
Fletcher - Jul 16, 2008 - 05:55 PM
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The stupidty in this thread is astonishing.
If someone can give me one good reason for gays being unable to marry I'll be surprised.
jq623 - Jul 17, 2008 - 08:34 PM
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i wonder how they pronounce them a couple?
like "I now declare you woman and wife?
or "I now declare you man and husband?
...the party A and party B thing they are using now seems weird IMO.
Fletcher - Jul 18, 2008 - 01:51 PM
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Doesn't really matter what they say, its just words.
~*[claire]*~ - Jul 18, 2008 - 11:51 PM
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I do get angry at some of the people on this site for the sheer amount of ignorance I sometimes see. Why shouldn't gay people be allowed to marry?
Aciid_drop - Jul 19, 2008 - 12:07 AM
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^^ Cuz its against most religions.For some people that reason is enough.
jq623 - Jul 19, 2008 - 09:22 PM
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They should be allowed to marry if they want.
Who wants to protest?
I suggest to anyone in the US to write letters to the congressmen/women to legalize gay marriage.
fritz - Jul 20, 2008 - 01:47 PM
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Aciid_drop wrote:
^^ Cuz its against most religions.For some people that reason is enough.
That's my point. It's not to be mean against gays or something, because I've got many friends who are gay, but it's the simple fact that most religions are primitive and ignorant and doesn't allow it. And I don't think you should twist the rules that people have been following for so long. If you're gonna twist it, you might as well not believe in it.
rainbows_are_gay - Jul 20, 2008 - 04:35 PM
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^Who says you have to follow religious rule?
Besides, anyone that believes gays shouldn't marry doesn't have to go out and have a gay marriage.
Let the people who want to marry marry, and the people who don't want to allow gays to marry kiss my ass (joking of course about the 'kiss-my-ass thing, don't get your panties in a bunch.)
~*[claire]*~ - Jul 20, 2008 - 04:39 PM
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Since when did religion dictate modern society?
visagepoissons - Jul 21, 2008 - 06:59 AM
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~*[claire]*~ wrote:
Since when did religion dictate modern society?
Since when hasn't it. :/
Religion dictates a lot of things, doesn't mean it should.
fritz - Jul 21, 2008 - 04:10 PM
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visagepoissons wrote:
~*[claire]*~ wrote:
Since when did religion dictate modern society?
Since when hasn't it. :/
Religion dictates a lot of things, doesn't mean it should.
Yes, and we're talking about marriage in church. Sounds like people are just making up excuses as they go, because none of it holds much against the facts.
rainbows_are_gay - Jul 21, 2008 - 04:12 PM
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fritz wrote:
visagepoissons wrote:
~*[claire]*~ wrote:
Since when did religion dictate modern society?
Since when hasn't it. :/
Religion dictates a lot of things, doesn't mean it should.
Yes, and we're talking about marriage in church. Sounds like people are just making up excuses as they go, because none of it holds much against the facts.
Who says you have to get married in a church?
fritz - Jul 21, 2008 - 04:18 PM
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But that's the whole issue. Gay people who wants to get married in church. They can get married elsewhere in many countries, I think some in the states too.
Them getting married not in church is great, as it gives them many rights, not much paper work if their partner dies, they get to keep everything. If you're not married and your partner dies, you risk losing it all to his family. So married outside of church is great, in church is against the rules of christianity.
rainbows_are_gay - Jul 21, 2008 - 04:24 PM
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ok, but where in the bible does it say that homosexuals are bad and can't marry?
fritz - Jul 21, 2008 - 04:28 PM
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Why do you think they can't marry in church in the first place? Read some of the bible and you'll understand their view on homosexuality. There's a lot of quotes lying around on the net too. Google is your friend
EDIT: 1337 posts... that means, I win? Jk lol
rainbows_are_gay - Jul 21, 2008 - 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Leviticus 18:22- You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
Are you talking about this quote?
This is a pretty vague quote...
To me it seems like god doesn't want us to lay down? no sleep for us? or can we only lay down alone?
you know, i have also heard that somewhere in the bible it says that woman can not speak in church. but, im pretty sure woman speak in church these days...
xlxcigaroxlx - Jul 21, 2008 - 05:53 PM
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no women preachers etc etc...
I hate religion in all ways. And when it comes the topic of homosexuality I feel really bad for them, when their "god" isn't even there for them because they love the same sex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABH_RFeeGAs
watch this video... It's very interesting, comedic and get's down to the point.
Allow gays to marry.. Their love is as good as mine
rainbows_are_gay - Jul 21, 2008 - 06:06 PM
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^i love that video. funny, but sad.
~*[claire]*~ - Jul 21, 2008 - 08:30 PM
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I ain't marrying in a church... not only am I an atheist, but hear this, it will cost me £600 to marry there!! I mean, why?? So, we're going for a registry office instead. The one in Birmingham is posh as fuck.
xlxcigaroxlx - Jul 21, 2008 - 08:57 PM
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I agree with paying the church... I don't believe in god and everything but you should be kind enough to pay wherever your wedding is.
If not pay the church, pay the preacher for his time.
It's only fair
~*[claire]*~ - Jul 21, 2008 - 09:16 PM
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Nah, I'm having a non-denominational ceremony.
rainbows_are_gay - Jul 21, 2008 - 09:20 PM
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i couldn't have a church wedding.
i dont even like being in churches... they scare the hell out of me 
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