New Members, Register Here

User name Password
Remember me
Support SOADFans


Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic Printable version Log in to check your private messages View next topic
Author Message
WeJammin
Posted: Aug 16, 2007 - 08:23 PM  Post
New Member
New Member


Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Posts: 25

So for those of you who don't know, there are supposed "secret" track orders for Tool's Lateralus album which are supposed to reveal hidden stories, so last night I decided to get baked out of my mind and try it. The order is 6,7,5,8,4,9,3,10,2,11,1,12,13 and is title "The Lateralus Prophecy". So here's a basic overview of what I came up with:

In Parabol and Parabola Maynard is describing the love he found, and how it makes him feel a divine connection, and as if all his pain is an illusion.

Then it transitions perfectly into Schism, which describes in a nutshell, how his relationship was doomed to crumble unless they strengthened their communication.

Ticks and Leeches goes on to describe how his resentment and frustration are eating away under his skin like a tick, making him bitter and indifferent.

Mantra can be interpreted differently here, as either the sound of his agony, or the sound of choking which he mentions previously in Ticks and Leeches.

In Lateralus, Maynard describes how his personal philosophies have now changed from simply seeing the world in Black and White to a much more complicated world which is reaching out to him and asking him to "push the envelope" meaning to change is own reality. In order to do this, he must dismiss all of his intuitions and seperate body from mind in order to reach a state of human divinity which is greater than the holy presence he felt earlier in Parabol / Parabola.

In light of this, The Patient is pretty self - explanatory. The journey is difficult and tedious and he is having second thoughts about doing this, but decides to wait it out and go through with it.

In Disposition, he feels as though he is missing some key element which is preventing him from reaching his goal. "Mention this to me and watch the weather change."

At the beginning of Reflection, he seems to have given up and feels lost in his "self-indulgent pitiful hole". Then suddenly in his darkest moment, he has a revelation, realizing that rather than trying to find the holy light to fill oneself, we all must instead reflect the "source" of the light which I think could either mean the Earth or God depending on how you look at it. In any case, he decides that he must adapt total selflessness and relinquish himself to the lightsource before he pines away.

In The Grudge, Maynard emplores the listener to let go of grudges because in the end they will always bring you down, then basically repeats that idea throughout the song.

Now, the only thing that doesn't fit with the rest of the storyline is Faaip de Oiad but if anyone has any theories after reading this, let me know. Also, this is just my personal interpretation of The Lateralus Prophecy...a lot of people mention the "true" meaning of it and if anyone is familiar with this, please do share Smile Thanks for reading if you made it this far.

_________________
Mother Earth is pregnant for the third time
For y'all have knocked her up
I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe
But I was not offended, for I knew I had to rise above it all
Or drown in my own SHIT
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
thegorillaman
Posted: Aug 18, 2007 - 11:57 PM  Post
Almost Member
Almost Member


Joined: Jul 09, 2007
Posts: 62

thats amazing, lol my god, you really think deep about tools meanings. Yeah I love tool they rock , better than system of a down in my opinion ( no offence ppls they rock too) I dont really think about tools meanings much. Its all about the music with me man. I love tool and system their both so spiritualy involved.
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
Hoffness
Posted: Aug 19, 2007 - 12:04 AM  Post
Peephole
Peephole


Joined: May 02, 2006
Posts: 1983

I agree that there's an overall point to Lateralus.

"Faaip De Oiad means "voice of God" in latin if I'm not mistaken, but the actual lyrics in the song don't seem to fit with the theme you suggested. The only thing I can't think of is that FDO might be second to last, like it may be the "negativity" referred to in The Grudge.

_________________

I hate it when people complain, but I have no idea what to do about it but complain.


"A witty saying proves nothing."
- Voltaire
 
 View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger  
Reply with quote Back to top
WeJammin
Posted: Aug 19, 2007 - 03:50 AM  Post
New Member
New Member


Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Posts: 25

Yeah Gorillaman, I never used to really think about Tool's song meanings either cause even without really thinking about the meaning, they're songs are still really good. But when you delve deep into them, they get even better which is true with all good music, really. Same with Pink Floyd, System of a Down, etc the list goes on.

_________________
Mother Earth is pregnant for the third time
For y'all have knocked her up
I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe
But I was not offended, for I knew I had to rise above it all
Or drown in my own SHIT
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
Before_I_Pine_Away
Posted: Sep 25, 2007 - 05:39 AM  Post
Spider
Spider


Joined: Feb 26, 2007
Posts: 373
Location: Area 51, gyroscopes and infrared
There's not a Lateralus Prophecy. The song order you provided is the actual order the songs should have been in because all of the songs in the Lateralus album follow the Fibonacci sequence. I don't know if you have read about the Fibonacci sequence, but it goes like this :each number on the sequence is the sum of its two previous ones. The song Lateralus itself is sung using that sequence, that is: 1 syllable, 2 syllables, 3 syllables, then 5 syllables, then 8 , then 13 and so on. Sing the lyrics according to the sequence and you will see what I am talking about. The whole album is about evolving and spiraling out to reach new depths of consciousness, to live our lives by spiraling out just like the Fibonacci sequence suggests, which goes on to the infinite. That means that in this order, and not the one the album has, the end of each song matches the beginning of the next one.
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
LestWeForget
Posted: Jan 28, 2008 - 08:35 AM  Post
Almost Member
Almost Member


Joined: Dec 13, 2006
Posts: 135
Location: Alrighty then....Picture this if you will
Very nice concept



Before I Pine Away! At last we meet again. I have a thread up about Disgustipated and I need your help with it if you do not mind.

_________________
Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability to lift an eye to heavens conscious of his fleeting time here.

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration
that we are all one conciousness experiencing itself subjectively
there is no such thing as death
life is only a dream
and we are the imagination of ourselves.....
Here's Tom with the weather"
 
 View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger  
Reply with quote Back to top
Display posts from previous:     
Jump to:  
All times are GMT + 2 Hours
Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic Printable version Log in to check your private messages View next topic

 

since I was a child, music runs through my head , and sometimes it's my worst enemy. It keeps me awake. It loops

-- Serj Tankian
Recent News

Random Picture

Random Poll
What's your favorite Scars on Broadway Song so far..?

Serious
Funny
Exploding / Reloading
Stoner-Hate
Insane
World Long Gone
Kill Each Other / Live Forever
Babylon
Chemicals
Enemy
Universe
3005
Cute Machines
Scars on Broadway (Instrumental)
Whoring Streets
They Say
Hungry Ghost
Votes : 281
Detailed Results


Home | Forums | Gallery | Downloads | FAQ | GAMES! Songs List | SUPPORT
Daron's Page | Serj's Page | Serj Tankian's Tour Dates |Shavo's Page | John's Page | Scars on Broadway's Page
Disclaimer |  Privacy Policy | Sitemap | Team | Credits | myspace |  Wallpapers | Polls | Tour Dates | Lyrics | UrSession | Facebook
SOADFans RSS    |    SOADFans Forum RSS

Copyright SOADFans.com © 2003-2008. Other Posted Topics, Comments & Images are Property of Their Respective Posters/Owners.