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The.Harlots.Roulette
Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 11:50 PM  Post
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Isn't there already a God and Evolution topic?

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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 12:00 AM  Post
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yep there is^ well anyway the way i see it, its all in your opinion, you gotta believe wut you feel right with.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 02:32 AM  Post
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ElectTheSOAD wrote:

There is a higher power, whether is is God, Allah, Multiple Gods, choose what u wish, but there is a power. were to unique and specific.


we're so unique and specific because we have been evolving for thousands of years. if an omnipotent conciousness created it, who created the omnipotent conciousness?

the creationist theory implies that our complex bodies were created with the single stroke of a divine hand, which is equivalent to, quite literally, building rome in one day. we have our brains and our fingers and lungs because we need them, and they formed as the needs presented themselves over the past thousands of years. life adapts, changes, grows to suit the also constantly changing environment.

if a god created us, why would he have created gorillas and chimpanzees? why could he have created creatures so similar to our own? to confuse us? to let us question his existence?

does this theory sound probable?:

adam miraculously appeared on earth, with the intelligence and physical appearance of a human who has lived for approximately 30 years. subsequently, while he was sleeping, a rib was removed from his body, and was used as the building block for a female mate to adam, named eve. eve was a perfectly healthy human, phsysical appearance of a human also approximately 30 years old, despite the fact that a human rib weighs significantly less than a 30 year old homo sapiens, and lacks the organic matter and genetic programming necessary to grow a brain, sexual organs, arms, fingers, lungs, a heart, and other organs required for human survival.

adam and eve sexually reproduced and had children, raising a problem. adam and eve and their children were the only humans that existed on the entire planet. since incest is a sin, their children could not sexually reproduce with eachother, adam and eve could not sexually reproduce with their children, only with eachother, but no matter how many children they had, none of them could sexually reproduce with eachother, or as a consequence, they would recieve a one way ticket to hell as retribution from this "god" character.

which means, if this theory is true, then every single human on the planet is family, and when they sexually reproduce to further the human race, they are sinning, and this means that every single human on the planet is going to hell for incest, if there is one. this isnt quite the image that jesus had for the world, is it?

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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 02:40 AM  Post
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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 02:55 AM  Post
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I believe in science because there are actual facts to back up what is being said.
This clip kind of sums up my view on religion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

Organized religion is pretty retarded. If you're a spiritual person who does his own thing, that's cool. I really respect that. But when you just follow some religion because "my parents taught me it" or "it's family tradition" or something like that, I don't know what to say. It's time to move on, humans are too smart for this.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 03:02 AM  Post
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no, supriingly their really not
and i LOVE this carlin skit!

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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 05:15 AM  Post
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onlysolution89 wrote:
ElectTheSOAD wrote:

There is a higher power, whether is is God, Allah, Multiple Gods, choose what u wish, but there is a power. were to unique and specific.


we're so unique and specific because we have been evolving for thousands of years. if an omnipotent conciousness created it, who created the omnipotent conciousness?

the creationist theory implies that our complex bodies were created with the single stroke of a divine hand, which is equivalent to, quite literally, building rome in one day. we have our brains and our fingers and lungs because we need them, and they formed as the needs presented themselves over the past thousands of years. life adapts, changes, grows to suit the also constantly changing environment.

if a god created us, why would he have created gorillas and chimpanzees? why could he have created creatures so similar to our own? to confuse us? to let us question his existence?

does this theory sound probable?:

adam miraculously appeared on earth, with the intelligence and physical appearance of a human who has lived for approximately 30 years. subsequently, while he was sleeping, a rib was removed from his body, and was used as the building block for a female mate to adam, named eve. eve was a perfectly healthy human, phsysical appearance of a human also approximately 30 years old, despite the fact that a human rib weighs significantly less than a 30 year old homo sapiens, and lacks the organic matter and genetic programming necessary to grow a brain, sexual organs, arms, fingers, lungs, a heart, and other organs required for human survival.

adam and eve sexually reproduced and had children, raising a problem. adam and eve and their children were the only humans that existed on the entire planet. since incest is a sin, their children could not sexually reproduce with eachother, adam and eve could not sexually reproduce with their children, only with eachother, but no matter how many children they had, none of them could sexually reproduce with eachother, or as a consequence, they would recieve a one way ticket to hell as retribution from this "god" character.

which means, if this theory is true, then every single human on the planet is family, and when they sexually reproduce to further the human race, they are sinning, and this means that every single human on the planet is going to hell for incest, if there is one. this isnt quite the image that jesus had for the world, is it?


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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 05:38 AM  Post
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onlysolution89 wrote:
ElectTheSOAD wrote:

There is a higher power, whether is is God, Allah, Multiple Gods, choose what u wish, but there is a power. were to unique and specific.


we're so unique and specific because we have been evolving for thousands of years. if an omnipotent conciousness created it, who created the omnipotent conciousness?

the creationist theory implies that our complex bodies were created with the single stroke of a divine hand, which is equivalent to, quite literally, building rome in one day. we have our brains and our fingers and lungs because we need them, and they formed as the needs presented themselves over the past thousands of years. life adapts, changes, grows to suit the also constantly changing environment.

if a god created us, why would he have created gorillas and chimpanzees? why could he have created creatures so similar to our own? to confuse us? to let us question his existence?

does this theory sound probable?:

adam miraculously appeared on earth, with the intelligence and physical appearance of a human who has lived for approximately 30 years. subsequently, while he was sleeping, a rib was removed from his body, and was used as the building block for a female mate to adam, named eve. eve was a perfectly healthy human, phsysical appearance of a human also approximately 30 years old, despite the fact that a human rib weighs significantly less than a 30 year old homo sapiens, and lacks the organic matter and genetic programming necessary to grow a brain, sexual organs, arms, fingers, lungs, a heart, and other organs required for human survival.

adam and eve sexually reproduced and had children, raising a problem. adam and eve and their children were the only humans that existed on the entire planet. since incest is a sin, their children could not sexually reproduce with eachother, adam and eve could not sexually reproduce with their children, only with eachother, but no matter how many children they had, none of them could sexually reproduce with eachother, or as a consequence, they would recieve a one way ticket to hell as retribution from this "god" character.

which means, if this theory is true, then every single human on the planet is family, and when they sexually reproduce to further the human race, they are sinning, and this means that every single human on the planet is going to hell for incest, if there is one. this isnt quite the image that jesus had for the world, is it?

Congratulations.
I dont know what to say.... *applauds*
 
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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 05:53 AM  Post
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people! stop the fucking madness! stop questioning religion! you will burn if you use your brain for wat it is made for! DONT think for yourself! DONT look at the facts! DONT use flawless logic to disprove anything! beleive what you are told and we will all be "fine". itll be like keeping chickens in a coop all their life without them ever knowing the outside world! how glorious does that sound? yay!

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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 10:58 AM  Post
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thebluelinecretin wrote:
Please dont shift this to general discussion this is very serious!

In accordance to christians woman was formed from the rib of a mans chest. Well Wimin have ribs I'll buy that. Man was formed by God. I have ribs ill buy that. Darwin says we evolved from apes. Apes have ribs ill buy that. There can be only one answer my friends and you must educate me on this matter for im sure your a dahm sight smarter than i am.


There is nothing to 'educate' you with, though. Both are theories, both have no conclusive proof. It is down to what YOU believe, not what other people tell you.

(This topic will get moved btw, no matter how much you whine, a topic will always get moved if it is not in the right section, or if it is a thread that has already been created.)

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