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Awean
Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 01:22 PM  Post
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I really hate when people refer to Bible as it was argument, as it proved something, it's just one (lame) book.

Do you know why incest is forbidden? It increases our risks to have genetic, hereditary diseases. In small countries (less than 6 million people) you can see it, they have more cancers, diabetes...

Hey didn't Adam and Eve have just sons?

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Angels, fallen and otherwise, who had taken part in the Creation under God's command, their creations (some of them Giants), and other people were also present on the planet. The Garden was just one place on Earth

So there was people before Adam and Eve?


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Everything he said was educated, in fact, the evolution theory is what I believe is taught in our modern school systems?

I was first taught that God shit... then year later in Natural Science class we were told that either Universe came form some fucking egg, God created it or Big Bang and evolution. NO evolution came afterwards... shit.. I hate that part of our education system, especially 'cause I'm not Christian, I've never been, they just expect everyone to be Christians.

Before anyone say more about God's role we need evidence, no Bible won't help. Bible is not eligible. I'm not coming here to tell universe was created from an egg 'cause one book says so.

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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 04:23 PM  Post
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I mean...look at all these after-sex cigarettes? Fuck, we just had an orgy in here with the SOADfans Spiderman. Cool

orgy. Cool

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Either you didn't read my post to you some time ago, or you have difficulty grasping the concepts of eternity and infinity. God is not limited by time as He is eternal. Therefore, He requires no beginning, no end and no creator. He is eternal and infinite.


GOD DOESN'T EXIST.
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there is no proof of him yet you speak of him like he has walked down here and said "hai guyz, im your gawd!!11one"
THE ONLY "PROOF" IS A BOOK.
A FUCKING BOOK.
can you give proof other than the bible for once?


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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 04:30 PM  Post
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I mean...look at all these after-sex cigarettes? Fuck, we just had an orgy in here with the SOADfans Spiderman. Cool

orgy. Cool

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Either you didn't read my post to you some time ago, or you have difficulty grasping the concepts of eternity and infinity. God is not limited by time as He is eternal. Therefore, He requires no beginning, no end and no creator. He is eternal and infinite.


GOD DOESN'T EXIST.
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there is no proof of him yet you speak of him like he has walked down here and said "hai guyz, im your gawd!!11one"
THE ONLY "PROOF" IS A BOOK.
A FUCKING BOOK.


Where is your proof that God doesn't exist?

Perhaps He(she/it/whatever) is not as the Bible says, but where is your proof that there is no God at all?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence ... (I love saying that xD)

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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 04:35 PM  Post
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Do we argue if santa or elves exists?
Do we argue that ghosts exists?


What's god?

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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 04:42 PM  Post
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but where is your proof that there is no God at all?

i dont have it.

what i am trying to say is CaylinSoo is using the bible as if its fact, when it could have been written by anyone. i want proof other than the bible that god exists.
if you cant provide me with that, then evolution looks alot more likely than a mystical man in the sky.

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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 06:32 PM  Post
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Ok. My view on this is, SmKiller you are right, people just pick one or another and that ain't right.

Therefor:

3 possibilities in stead of 2 :O so they pick one or another OR ANOTHER OTHER Wink
1) everything evolved from something
2) "God" created everything
3) God created shit and something came out of it.

hmmmm tumtumtum *thinks* ONE! xD

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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 10:06 PM  Post
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This is your perception because you are only looking at life in terms of this planet, this dimension and this realm. There is much more to creation than that. Even physicists have put that into their texts. And if you truly believe that your ancestors' spirits are there for you to pray to, then you also truly believe that there is more to creation than what can be perceived with your physical senses. God has come down to tell us his story--through his Holy Books, prophets, his Son and through a personal relationship with each of us.


I believe in other realms, other things. Just not what you believe, I imagine. Just because I don't believe in God and eternity, doesn't mean that I don't believe in these other things. I just so happen to believe in the "less mainstream" other realms.

My personal relationship with God was believing in him even when I had doubts. Now? I don't. I've been known since I was a child to question everything infront of me, and now, am more notorious than ever for this. I do question the entire fabric of society, and think it would be MUCH better without religion.

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Then he should demonstrate this knowledge in his posts. For example, in his posts he leaves out that Adam and Eve did not start procreating until after they were cast out of the Garden.


Merely because that wasn't the main idea of his post, it focused more on the children and descendents of Adam and Eve.

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I'll refer you to Genesis 6 and to the Books of Enoch and Japher. They clearly refer to others being on Earth besides Adem, Eve and their progeny. And, of course, Satan was here to tempt Eve. All humans in the flesh "die," Vicinity, with a few exceptions. But this does not have to do with incest rather than the fact that we all sin and are born into a fallen condition. Death was not initially a part of the Creation plan.


I know of that, as well. For a girl who's never been to church in her life, I know a damn well lot about Christianity. And that "Eve" is the "Stupid little woman who fell for Satan's trap" eternally in Christianity has largely set the tone for inequality, I believe, and I don't mean to sound like a feminist here, but, it's bullshit.

Are you telling me that our sins have something to do with the time we die? I can call this false right here. I know of some of the BEST people who have died too early for their own good. And some assholes who deserve to die for all they have done are still breathing. Death isn't fair, and anyone who tries to justify that by saying that they sinned so their time is up is wrong with the way I've seen life and death.

I don't believe in a Satan entity, either. And I can tell you, neither do most Satanists. They're more like atheists than the majority thinks, myself doing some research on Satanism. It believes more in the God being yourself, in your inner power, and to do what is right for you. Nothing sounds wrong with that in the least bit. I believe it is only LaVeyan Satanists (I could be mixing up the names here, however) who believe in the actual entity of satan.

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This is largely because churches and their Bible classes are largely out of the box given to them by the denomination and they usually cover a very small portion of the Bible. And very important parts of the Bible were left out by the Church. I believe that this is an intentional decision on th epart of the Church that was demonically influenced. The Church is a part of the world System about which SOAD sings so eloquently, and I also believe that it serves to separate people from God more than leading them to Him.
If you look at Enoch, Japher and more closely at Genesis, you will see that incest is not the issue. And if you study the Bible, you will see that Creation and Evolution aren't really opposing viewpoints.
But regarding incest, if you look at what happened to Lot and his daughters, you will see that there really is incest in Jesus' lineage. There is also at least one prostitute in Jesus' lineage. But I'll let you dig for that scripture yourself.


The church was demonically influenced? But, oh, wait, weren't they supposed to PROTECT Christians and Catholics from all demonic harm? I wouldn't feel too safe if I believed in this.

No, Creation and Evolution actually are opposing. Creation believes that humanity evolved from God's devine whim, while Evolutionism is based on the fact that humans evolved from different organisms. Two very contradicting beliefs.

Bringing up what Zane had said prior to this, there are actually proven statements that say that incest causes mutations. Why wasn't Jesus mutated? Oh! Maybe that explains his divinity, sorry to sound offensive. I'm serious. That could explain how he could do these "abnormal" things. Huh. You know, I am a genious. Laughing

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I'm not getting personal, and I'm operating directly from what he's puting out in his posts. He keeps asking people to "prove" things to him and for "God" to do things for him when clearly isn't reading their posts carefully and demonstrates ignorance of the Biblical text for the points that he's debating.


You were personal by taking what he was writing in his posts and making an assumption on his habbits. That's personal to me, and especially since this is a person I know better than I know anyone, yeah, of course I'm going to stand up for him. That's not ignorance. Just because someone doesn't believe what you believe does not make them ignorant. In fact, for thinking that, it makes you ignorant to other beliefs, sorry to say. That's how you come across to me for that little comment.

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Because God reaches out to different cultures in different ways. For example, someone from the Arabic culture would likely feel a more natural affinity for the Quran than for a Buddhist text. He loves us all.


Then how come a lot of Christians and Catholics choose to "Convert" to their way of seeing God? If, in fact, it is still "God" in the other religions? Tsk tsk. Contradictions, contradictions, contradictions.

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No, your friend was demonstrating clear ignorance of the Bible. You may review my points. I don't go for the "Bible bashers" either. Most of those haranguers that you find on the God Channel are filled with hate and do not preach the Biblical word. The ones that I've seen clearly work for the world system, not for God. I don't condemn people to hell either. That's not my pay grade.


Hmm. I feel a need to repeat myself here. Remember where I said "he has picked up a bible before"? Yeah. There. Repeated myself. I wish people would take the time to READ my posts as I read theirs instead of just getting quotie with it. Rolling Eyes Laughing

I've never watched the God channel. But I got some Jehova's Witnesses over here a while ago. Haha. Thank God for my dog, they ran like bloody hell! Needless to say for saving me from that trauma, treats and pets were given. Laughing

I wasn't speaking of you when I said that, I was speaking of the majority of the religious types I know, growing up in a religious town, trust me, I know my shit. I've grown up around it, listened to it my whole life, and I have NEVER, EVER fully agreed.

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I'm afraid you're being swayed by your emotion here. I hate to be the one to tell you, but there's a big difference between sex and an Internet post. Sex is much, much more fun!


'fraid not. Wink As dear as Zane is to me, if anyone else would have said that, I would have cheered them onto high heavens. (pun intended)

Oh, believe me, dear, I've had sex before and I've been called quite gifted. But that's a new story for Chop Suey. Wink My suggestion is after this, go there, and read my recent posts. But, this post was pretty orgasmic. Look at all the raped and satisfied on here. Wink

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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 10:18 PM  Post
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But, this post was pretty orgasmic. Look at all the raped and satisfied on here.

wub wub wub Cool
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He keeps asking people to "prove" things to him and for "God" to do things for him when clearly isn't reading their posts carefully and demonstrates ignorance of the Biblical text for the points that he's debating.

and quoting a book as fact seems pretty ignorant to me. Rolling Eyes

Caylin, i ask you one question: can you give me ANY other proof of god that isnt a book?

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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 10:27 PM  Post
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^^Our Spiderman does a good job of leaving us all satisfied.
I say we plan another Superhero Gang Bang.
Ohh the thought...*orgasms* Laughing

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Posted: Jul 23, 2008 - 10:30 PM  Post
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^seconded. Cool
superman gang bang. Laughing
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