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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 04:16 AM
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Marmalade
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Location: In the forest of denial.
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Obama makes history, clinches Democratic nomination
1 hour ago
ST PAUL, Minnesota (AFP) — Democrat Barack Obama made history Tuesday, capturing the Democratic presidential nomination as the first black candidate to top a major-party ticket, after a giant-slaying win over Hillary Clinton.
Senator Obama, 46, triumphed after the longest, most expensive nominating epic ever, buckling Clinton's own historic quest to break what she called America's highest glass ceiling by being the first woman president.
"Tonight, I can stand before you and say that I will be the Democratic nominee for president of the United States," Obama said in remarks prepared for his victory speech in Minnesota, a battleground state in November's general election against Republican John McCain, 71.
"Tonight we mark the end of one historic journey with the beginning of another -- a journey that will bring a new and better day to America," Obama said, 16 months after launching his improbable quest on a frigid Illinois day.
Clinton, however, signalled she was not yet ready to hand her army of supporters over to her rival, congratulating him on an "extraordinary" race but refusing to formally conceding defeat.
"Now the question is, where do we go from here, and given how far we've come and where we need to go as a party, it's a question I don't take lightly," Clinton said.
"This has been a long campaign, and I will be making no decisions tonight," she said, in an eloquent speech framing her never-say-die campaign, but hinting she still believed she was the best potential president.
Obama's soaring calls of hope and change, in a country wearied by the Iraq war and stalked by fears of recession, ended a 16-year era of Clinton family dominance over the Democratic Party.
His momentous victory -- in a nation where racial tensions are still palpable -- set up an intriguing general election clash.
Voters will be asked to choose between Obama, freshman senator and charismatic mixed-race voice of a new political generation, and McCain, a wounded Vietnam war hero asking for one final call to service.
Television networks projected Obama would surpass the 2,118 delegates needed to claim the Democratic party banner, minutes before Clinton snapped up a consolation victory in South Dakota's primary.
Obama won the final primary in Montana, television networks projected, capping a party election season stretching five months, and defying logic at every turn.
Five months before the election, Obama had a slight 49-44 percent lead in a new USA Today/Gallup poll out Tuesday, with their battle already boiling Iraq, whether to talk to US enemies like Iran and the ailing US economy.
Obama had zeroed in all day on the winning post of 2,118 delegates, after top party officials or superdelegates declared their support in a flood, finally consigning Clinton to mathematical defeat.
In the frenzied end-game, Clinton meanwhile said for the first she may be ready to serve as Obama's vice president, in a phone call with lawmakers from her New York state, a staffer with the New York delegation told AFP.
Obama needs Clinton to help him mend party rifts, and to rally her base of white working class women and Hispanic voters, but some analysts question whether he wants to deal with the Clintons' political 'baggage.'
Obama turned his full fire on potential general election rival John McCain, with a daring foray into the same Minnesota sports arena where Republicans will crown their nominee in September.
McCain got his retaliation in first, with a blistering general election attack, branding Obama the "wrong change" for America, in a speech also separating himself from unpopular Republican President George W. Bush.
"I don't seek the presidency on the presumption that I'm blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save my country in its hour of need," McCain said.
McCain spoke in the hurricane-ravaged city of New Orleans, scene of the Bush administration's worst domestic debacle, and previewed a five-month attack on Obama running up to the general election on November 4.
"The American people didn't get to know me yesterday, as they are just getting to know Senator Obama," he said.
Obama rocketed to prominence at the 2004 Democratic presidential convention with an electrifying call for unity, proclaiming "there is not a Black America and a White America... there's the United States of America."
Son of a white American mother and a black Kenyan father, Obama was raised in Hawaii, and lived for several years in Indonesia in the late 1960s, which he remembered in a memoir as the "bounty of a young man's life."
Married in 1992 to Michelle, Obama has two young daughters, Malia and Sasha.
Buried in Tuesday's euphoria was the fact that Obama crept, rather than strode towards the finish line, as a defiant Clinton snapped up a string of late primaries in rust-belt states that Democrats need in November.
Her dominance of the white working class vote again raised the question of whether America was ready to elect a black president.
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 04:20 AM
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Marmalade
Joined: Jan 26, 2008
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 04:30 AM
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Marmalade
Joined: May 20, 2006
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Location: Salt Lake City, UT. Not as bad as you'd think
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| wonderful. i'm still disappointed not to see Bill Richardson in the democratic race, but Obama seems to be the next best thing. if Hilary would've won, Mccain definitely would be elected president. we wouldnt want to see the results of an old Vietnam war hawk in charge of the mess in the middle east |
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 04:43 AM
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Joined: Feb 23, 2008
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| YAY! I really hope that he wins. That old fart McCain wants 100-10,000 years in Iraq. Any System fan won't want him in office! |
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 04:48 AM
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Marmalade
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Location: Salt Lake City, UT. Not as bad as you'd think
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| true. but, unfortunately, system fans dont make up the majority of the US population. can you imagine? |
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Is it insane to think the world could change?
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 04:54 AM
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Dart
Joined: Feb 23, 2008
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| Yeah. But it would be awesome wouldn't it? Could you imagine every person in the world listening to System all at once?! |
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 05:25 AM
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 06:16 AM
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Needle
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onlysolution89 wrote:
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if Hilary would've won, Mccain definitely would be elected president. we wouldnt want to see the results of an old Vietnam war hawk in charge of the mess in the middle east
I was hearing ppl say exactly the contrary . They were saying , now many ppl would vote for Mccain ,because they wouldn´t like Obama as a president .
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 07:22 AM
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Cigaro
Joined: Oct 04, 2007
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Location: Europe for 13 months still, ie over 5000 miles from Hollywood
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| This is awesome...just hope that Hillary's voters are not too bitter to vote Obama in November. I think if you really think you're into some party then stay there don't switch to another if your candidate loosed...like Ushi said. |
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 01:12 PM
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| I'm glad all of you are happy - at least something makes you happy, but this doesn't mean much, just 'we made history'. How ironic. |
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 02:59 PM
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Cigaro
Joined: Oct 17, 2006
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Location: maybe black mesa - that was a joke. ha ha. fat chance.
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I jacked cracked dealer on El Verado Street with a Honda Accord.
And then I dumped the Honda Accord in the LA river, which is about this high,
and then here I am I playing guitar for System of a Down a year later !
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