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Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 09:16 PM
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ddevil
Joined: Apr 16, 2007
Posts: 1266
Location: Wales - The land of my fathers. My fathers can keep it.
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http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=148505&in_page_id=34
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=148489&in_page_id=34&in_a_source=
Soo it seems Labour (according to the media at present) are teetering on becoming one with 'the Party' (1984) where they are planning to monitor our phone calls, e-mails, text messages and all the interweb sites we visit.
They are trying to force telecommunication companies and ISPs to hand over this date in order to "counter terrorism".
I don't really see how this is going to benefit us in the long run - I could one day be writing something about guns, and have to search on Google about how to assemble and dismantle a gun, and good places to conceal it.
Would the riot squad then burst through my front door and beat me unconcious with my own shoes, then haul me to a secret facility for terrorists and interrogate me for the rest of my life?
Probably, but its still a bad idea. People can be innocent in what they are looking at on the internet (okay, so some can't, but there we go), so why do they need to pry on us like little old curtain twitchers?
Yes, if we've got nothing to hide, then we shouldn't moan - but its still unfair that they should think they can run around and do anything they want. |
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 11:48 AM
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Mesmerized
Joined: May 09, 2006
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Location: Black Mesa Research Facility.
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 11:50 AM
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ddevil
Joined: Apr 16, 2007
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Location: Wales - The land of my fathers. My fathers can keep it.
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Yeah. Soon we'll all be enjoying compulsory exercises beamed to us via our televisions and listening devices in our houses.
When they start grooming kids for the Ministry of Love, I'm leaving. |
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 11:53 AM
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 11:56 AM
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ddevil
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| Well lets hope that is the case, but I wouldn't put it past them to try to use it against everyone - which is what the media is convinced will happen (especially the tabloids, but that is expected of them). |
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 12:03 PM
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 12:08 PM
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Dart
Joined: Feb 26, 2007
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Location: Here not there
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| Yeah I remember ages ago seeing in the paper, a load of information leaked out from AOL about its users and what they search/look at on the internet....they even featured the results of this one guy and it showed REALLY personal stuff like his wife leaving him and he wanted to commit suicide. O.o |
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 01:03 PM
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Joined: Nov 26, 2007
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Location: San Antonio, Texas
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I'm sure this had been going on in the US for years and I'd be shocked if this hasn't been going on in the UK for years too. The Feds listen to the phone calls and read the e-mails of whoever they want, whenever they want--and they've been doing it for a long, long time. They don't care if it's "legal" or not. It's just what they do.
It's big business here in San Antonio, where the NSA has big buildings full of of guys listening to our conversations and reading our e-mail. Some of them even have bumperstickers on their trucks or cars saying "I'm the one who listens to your phone calls."
Back in the 80s, when I was an activist and the Feds surveillance technology was less advanced, I once picked up the phone and could hear the Fed's voice counting to testing his recording equipment. I said, "Hi there, Tap O'Neil." We called our "listeners" Tap O'Neil after the Speaker of the House at the time, Tip O'Neil.
If you can't do anything about it, you may as well have fun with it, right? |
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Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 01:14 PM
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Joined: Oct 04, 2007
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Location: Europe for 14 months still, ie over 5000 miles from Hollywood
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I think here they save you phone data, and cops use it if necessary. But authorities know pretty much of us already
oh the fight should employers have right to read employees mail is turning to employers victory... but who the fuck would leak some company's secrets via work email??
and I don't have anything out there that I should be shamed of/afraid... I'm not terrorist... or criminal... If I was, fuck them I'd find my way. And my phone is registered under my dad's name...
so authorities know my weight, height, when I've been ill, my grades and what I've study. They may not know when I've been over seas since within several countries there's no more any identity checks like I was going to leave the country under my mom's name though she was still abroad but I asked to put name to ticket, so if somebody had made research it would like my mom had left the country twice without returning and I would still be there... freedom...
If some employees have right to do research within that database there might be tiny chance that they'd use it for their own spy people they know.
And to know what you've done in internet they need your ip address, right? But e.g you could use public coms and even if you use your own they could say is it you or some of your family members... |
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