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Posted: Oct 09, 2008 - 12:08 AM
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Spider
Joined: Nov 26, 2007
Posts: 513
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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What gives me hope are my daughter, her friends, and the young people that I see everyday. My daughter, her friends, and many of the young people I encounter at work are very bright, hard working, perceptive, good-hearted people. And I don't think that's just an act they put on when they are around me. When I see them, I have a lot of hope for the future.
But between now and when they are out on their own in the world, we're in for a very rocky road. The system clearly is not working for the betterment of the majority of the people, and it seems like all avenues for "change" within the system have been blocked up. The elections are a sham. The candidates are lying traitors. The courts are hamstrung by vicious legislation. We are all in for a world of hurt.
But still, I see a lot of good in the young people around me. |
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Posted: Oct 09, 2008 - 06:17 PM
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Joined: Mar 24, 2008
Posts: 83
Location: With Soldatin looking for a paddle.
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Are you American? Do you hate Communism? If you've said yes to both of those questions, then you can not say anything close to "I think the rich CEO's should pay the bill, not us Middle Class citizens."
See people, America has an economy based on a CAPITALIST system. This means that things here are NOT GOING TO BE FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, it would be nice if the rich had to foot the bill of the problem caused by the Middle Class, but that's just not capitalism. Making everyone more equal in the name of fairness, is Communism.
If you don't mind Communism/Socialism, then go ahead, demand that more fortunate people save your arse. I mean it's totally their fault that you took out a loan you couldn't afford, for a house you shouldn't be paying. We can also blame them for your bad credit and such too. I mean all is fair right? |
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Posted: Oct 09, 2008 - 10:10 PM
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Joined: Jun 22, 2008
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| Lol. I'm an american, but i don't have anything against communism. Just socialism, because the idea of a government owning everything scares me (family being from a formerly socialist country may have something to do with that). And the reason i hate this bailout is that it's the government using taxpayer money to bailout these huge companies that have made billions, still have billions and are asking to be helped out anyway. I dislike the government being involved in the economic system of the country too much and this is moving into that area for me. |
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Posted: Oct 10, 2008 - 12:05 AM
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Spider
Joined: Nov 26, 2007
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Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Actually, in communism, the government owns everything until such time as the people are ready to share everything communally. In a completely evolved communist system, there's no real private property, everyone shares everything.
So for the US Federal Government to be siezing the largest banks, insurance companies and S&L's, as they are doing now and are enabled under this "bail out bill," can actually be properly defined as both Fascism and the early stages of Communism. And for the US Congress to pass this "bail out bill" against the wishes of their constituents, the American people, is outright thievery. They are taking 840billion dollars from the US taxpayers without our permission, handing it over to millionaire bankers, and giving supreme economic authority in the land to the US Treasurer, H. Paulson. That is institutionalized thievery and thuggery.
To tax the oil barons, military contractors (killers), and thieving finance executives would be to reclaim what has been stolen from the vast majority of the American people. That would be socialism--not communism. And if you divide the proceeds from those taxes between the poorest Americans and the victims of the wars we've waged on Iraq and Afghanistan---that would be justice. |
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Posted: Oct 10, 2008 - 03:56 PM
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Joined: Oct 04, 2007
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Location: Europe for fucking 12 months
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I just don't like how government favors rich people and is trying to favor them even more...
They are trying to make richest people even richer and everyone else gets poorer. That's life.
I don't know if government shouldn't support poor people but in my opinion they should at least let drunkards die. Period. It's unfair how drunk guy gets $600 a month without need to do anything and I get just $107 'cause I'm a full time student. That's a personal issue for me now.  God I hate our neighbors.
And I think people should have more rights to decide where they their tax moneys go... see, there's cuts in health care, education (our school dinner's, which is not good enough to feed pigs, average producing cost per student is $1 that tells all about it ) and then government spend $1 500 000 to celebrate something, they went opera etc. Oh and then the very same politicians increased their own salaries AGAIN. 
Bailout the poor not the millionaires. |
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Posted: Oct 10, 2008 - 08:13 PM
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Joined: Jan 01, 2007
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Location: Between you and me.
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I don't know if government shouldn't support poor people but in my opinion they should at least let drunkards die.
Why?They are human beings just like you and me...Why..? |
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Posted: Oct 10, 2008 - 09:00 PM
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Needle
Joined: Oct 04, 2007
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Location: Europe for fucking 12 months
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^^I don't like them. Like I said government is spending too much to pay their living, rent, drinking, health care etc. all they do is drink and disturb other people.
Seriously it's kinda person's own choice start drinking, keep on drinking, and die of drinking. It's proved that there's some gene that makes you more likely to become an addict but still it's your choice. And if you're able to stay off few days before ending up drinking next few weeks why don't you do something to yourself? Please, grown up man, do you really think it's wise to be drunk most of time?
I don't have anything against drunkards as long as they stay out of my sight, sounds bad I know, but I can't stand to be in same bus with smelling, yelling drunk middle aged guy who's coming home from liquor store. Yes some of them have homes, where they apparently don't have anything else to do than yell to their drinking buddies in the middle of night. And then yell at neighbors who dare to ask them being more quiet next time, to let kids and working parents sleep overnight.
And here, it's some cultural thing, it's proved, god I don't know anything about the study, that people here tend to be very aggressive while intoxicated. And they got pissed off easily.
And we basically have stopped evolution in our species... we make every goddamn a-hole survive and let them have kids for god's sake...bad genes spreads...we'll die for that.
Yeah my main reason was that drunkard who's really JUST drinking at his houses gets more support from government than single parents or students. That money is off from something.
Quite off-topic, forgive me. |
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Posted: Oct 11, 2008 - 11:49 PM
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Joined: Apr 28, 2005
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Location: under your daughters bed
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Oh come on, that's low.....
KILL drunks??????? I could never agree with something like that in my life...You say they choose to drink....But you have to understand the addiction factor... My brother is dealing with the addiction right now..And it's tearing his life apart... He started going to AA meetings, trying to get help and it's got such a grasp on him that he can't seem to shake it.
To KILL them? My god, it's a person you're talking about..Avoid them, fine...Ignore them..you're choice but WOW.... |
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Posted: Oct 12, 2008 - 01:22 AM
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Joined: Nov 26, 2007
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Location: San Antonio, Texas
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According to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsiZdOD5u4), a one world currency and one world financial system are parts of the end game of the current "crisis." Both China and France have called for this and many big financial events (such as interest rates) are occurring globally.
Awean, are the drunks that you have to encounter on a regular basis currently in any kind of treatment program for their addiction, or are they just wallowing in their drunken obnoxiousess? Would it be possible for your parents to move your family away from that? When my daughter entered kindergarten, I came to the realization that we lived in a neighborhood overrun by the Crips (a very nasty street gang). I worked three jobs for a year to raise the money to move us into a safer part of the city. |
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Posted: Oct 12, 2008 - 02:47 AM
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Joined: Apr 23, 2008
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Location: NYC
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xlxcigaroxlx wrote:
Oh come on, that's low.....
KILL drunks??????? I could never agree with something like that in my life...You say they choose to drink....But you have to understand the addiction factor... My brother is dealing with the addiction right now..And it's tearing his life apart... He started going to AA meetings, trying to get help and it's got such a grasp on him that he can't seem to shake it.
To KILL them? My god, it's a person you're talking about..Avoid them, fine...Ignore them..you're choice but WOW....
I'd like to see you tell me to avoid or ignore them when my dad's the alcoholic. I have to deal with him every day. I can't just "avoid" him, because then he gets up in my face about it. I really feel NO fucking sympathy for people who are addicted to alcohol. They made the choice, and now they're making everyone else live with the consequences. I can respect someone who tries to get help, I'll admit that. I can't respect any drunkard who tries to act like they're a victim, however, or who takes out their self-loathing and frustration on the people around them, whether it be mentally or physically.
Sorry, it's just a sensitive topic for me. |
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Posted: Oct 12, 2008 - 06:18 AM
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ddevil
Joined: Apr 28, 2005
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Location: under your daughters bed
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My brother lives down the street, and he comes over every day and he gets rude ..And I've gotten my ass handed to me by him on more than one occasion....
I said ignore them and avoid them because thats what the original poster said she does.... I don't avoid my brother because I love him...I said he's tried to get help and it doesn't work..
Have you ever been addicted to anything??? I was addicted to Oxy Contins for over a year....I know what a strangle hold addiction can do to you.... My father was a drunk, my brother is one...And I still have sympathy because I've been through it.
lmfao @ they made the choice
it's a fucking addiction.... You can't help it..You create excuses for yourself... "well, it's just one" and one turns into 2...... 2 turns into a 12 pack.
I told my brother tonight, to stop coming over when he's drunk.... That shit broke my heart to do because I love that guy so much.
I see what you're saying about making every1 around them pay for what they chose to do, but I also see the stand point on addiction because I've survived it...It really sucks, and he needs to seek help.....Seeking help means he's going to AA...Where you WILL become the victim of abuse....It's what it is....if you can't control yourself, you're a victim. |
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