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Posted: Apr 05, 2007 - 10:37 PM
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Dart
Joined: Mar 28, 2006
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Check it out
this is where our [Americans] money goes:
http://thebudgetgraph.com/view/
It's the "president's budget request"
Military: 633 Billion (64%)
Non-Military: 350 Billion (36%)
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Posted: Apr 05, 2007 - 11:06 PM
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Marmalade
Joined: Nov 13, 2006
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Location: The Space-Dye Vest
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Not very surprised.
Good find, though. |
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Posted: Apr 05, 2007 - 11:13 PM
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Almost Member
Joined: Jan 30, 2007
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Location: On the polluted shore
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I was not surprised by this at all. Whereas this government can't find money for education or health programs, they can always manage to find money for the military. Perhaps if the US Govt just minded their own business and stopped fighting imaginary weapons of mass destruction we wouldn't need to spend all that money on the military. Politics suck.
Yeah, this was a good find. Thanks! |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2007 - 08:57 AM
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Peephole
Joined: Sep 03, 2006
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lol. You guys. Crack me up. Protecting the entire free world is expensive.
And national defense should be the gov't. top priority. The less they get involved in individual citizens lives with their social programs, the better. |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2007 - 09:57 AM
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Peephole
Joined: May 02, 2006
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"Protecting the entire free world" 
I'm sorry, but that's just plain silly. There's other countries that help protect the free world besides the US. We just happen to be the biggest player.
However, it seems to me that 64% isn't really that high. I think it should be more the state government's responsibility to pay for schools and health care than the federal government. |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2007 - 12:19 PM
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Joined: Feb 10, 2006
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Location: E3 WORLD
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lol. You guys. Crack me up. Protecting the entire free world is expensive.
Why don't you just stop playing the cops and mind yours own business instead of sticking your nose in others' countries.
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I think it should be more the state government's responsibility to pay for schools and health care than the federal government.
But doesn't tax-payers money go to federal gov?
I think that health and education should be the priority of all goverments. |
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Posted: Apr 08, 2007 - 10:39 PM
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Peephole
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Why don't you just stop playing the cops and mind yours own business instead of sticking your nose in others' countries
I don't know. I don't control American foreign policy. We were isolationist, but WW2 happened.
And the world doesn't want us to be isolationist. Look at Darfur, who were people complaining about? Were people bothering France to get into Darfur? No. The demand was for the US to do something. Nobody wants the United States around, until the shit hits the fan.
Look at any UN venture, who funds it, who fights it?
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But doesn't tax-payers money go to federal gov?
Yes. There needs to be less taxes. Less government spending.
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I think that health and education should be the priority of all goverments
It works better when individuals are responsible for themselves instead of Big Brother. |
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Posted: Apr 08, 2007 - 10:41 PM
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Spider
Joined: Oct 24, 2006
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Location: 1984
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And national defense should be the gov't. top priority.
You crack ME up.
How free is the 'free world' when dominated by "coorporation USA"?
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I think that health and education should be the priority of all goverments
It works better when individuals are responsible for themselves instead of Big Brother.
Ah... yeah that does work, no education, only for the elite, that's the answer to the worlds problems....
Stop bashing the French btw, it's getting annoying.... |
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Posted: Apr 08, 2007 - 10:48 PM
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Peephole
Joined: May 02, 2006
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EL_EVIL_EMPEROR wrote:
But doesn't tax-payers money go to federal gov?
I think that health and education should be the priority of all goverments.
I was under the understanding that this chart only represented the federal government's spending, not state and local governments'.. unless I'm mistaken. |
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Posted: Apr 08, 2007 - 11:43 PM
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Dart
Joined: Oct 29, 2006
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Location: LA, CA.
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I would like to think my taxes go to schools, health and other issues, but i know better.
In the state of Washington they are having to close several schools due to lack of funding. They need 5 million dollars to save these schools, in the same breathe 5 million dollars is how much the prison system gets to fix inmates teeth...people who have fucked up their mouths due to meth and other abuses. Makes perfect sense to me. |
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Posted: Apr 09, 2007 - 03:41 AM
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Peephole
Joined: Sep 03, 2006
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How free is the 'free world' when dominated by "coorporation USA"?
Are you talking about globalization, meaning the spread of American products. Or American military conflicts? Which one?
Because the corporations have no power if there is not a demand for what they do.
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Ah... yeah that does work, no education, only for the elite
Don't have to cut all the money. Inefficiency needs to be punished. Teachers need to be paid based on performance. Every child should have a choice of school they attend. No more being imprisoned by your zip code. The way I see it, the rich already have the unfair advantage in this system. The difference between me and the liberals is they embrace the status quo, and when somebody wants change they call them "uncompassionate" They measure compassion in the amount of dollars you want wasted on social programs that never work. What good has welfare done, but feed a cycle that brings entire communities down? How good is the American school system in poorer socio-economic parts of the country? How can anybody be for the way things are going now?
Health care? Get the gov't. out of it, and you can have more affordable health insurance
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Stop bashing the French btw, it's getting annoying....
If everyone else stops bashing America and corporations. It's getting annoying.
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I would like to think my taxes go to schools, health and other issues, but i know better
Since when has dumping money on something ever fixed anything?? Give more money to the schools? They can't manage money. They'll buy laptops for teachers, they'll put a TV, DVD, and Mac in every room, they'll put thousand dollar projectors in the ceiling for god knows what. They'll build swimming pools. Have you been to any district offices?? They are like palaces. The money gets lost in the state bureacracy and none of it gets used efficiently.
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They need 5 million dollars to save these schools, in the same breathe 5 million dollars is how much the prison system gets to fix inmates teeth...people who have fucked up their mouths due to meth and other abuses. Makes perfect sense to me
The prison system. There is another num-nuts idea. Holding criminals in a pen at the cost of the tax-payer, then let them out and watch 70% of them come right back. Set those people to work. Make use of them. Send them to underdeveloped parts of the world and have them build infrastructure. Donate their labor to the UN for the length of their sentence. The UN is a completely fucked organization, but it does do some good in the world. Way too inefficient for my liking, but I figure inmates helping out is better than them sitting in a pen with other criminals, just being a drain on the tax dollar. |
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