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Posted: Feb 13, 2008 - 10:29 PM
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pearlyjx wrote:
So I've considered jumping in and having a discussion with anyone who'll talk in this thread, but I've decided not to. I finally stopped being lazy and scanned back over the previous pages, and I think it's bullshit how it's so crazy biased. The thread should just be called "Trash George Bush and His Supporters." I don't like how anyone that likes Bush is automatically attacked. I know that's how "discussion" goes, but as far as people saying that people who support Bush are stupid and do terrible things, that's too far.
As an American citizen (and a member of this forum), I should be allowed the right to say my opinion on things without worrying about being made fun of or being treated like I'm stupid and I don't know the facts. Sure, there are good people here that are willing to talk without being a dick (cozmachina, Caylinsoo, etc), but there's still the chance of the jerks that won't be so nice with their opinions.
rightwinger, I really admire that you stick to what you say no matter what. Please keep on keepin' on. But as for this thread, I'm done. Bye now.
Sorry for the rant. That's been building up inside of me for a bit, haha.
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008 - 10:36 PM
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coolguyb52 wrote:
I wouldn't say I'm crazy biased against George Bush, but I do say that I disagree with some of his policy choices (Iraq being one of them). I am one who feels that we should leave Iraq, but not all at once. I think over time, if the situation gets better, we can start a troop withdrawal.
Speaking of policy, anyone read about the stimulus package?
Yes. I know of the stimulus package. Anything specific? |
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Posted: Feb 13, 2008 - 11:43 PM
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| I had been reading about the stimulus package, and it does not say whether students in college who file taxes get a piece of that package (either that or I just misread it). From what I hear we don't get it as long as were dependents. Kinda strange since we technically are taxpayers if we've had a job and provided income to report to the IRS. |
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Posted: Feb 14, 2008 - 12:16 AM
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^Yeah and they want people who don't pay taxes to get it.  |
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Posted: Feb 14, 2008 - 01:10 AM
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coolguyb52 wrote:
I had been reading about the stimulus package, and it does not say whether students in college who file taxes get a piece of that package (either that or I just misread it). From what I hear we don't get it as long as were dependents. Kinda strange since we technically are taxpayers if we've had a job and provided income to report to the IRS.
It depends on your income though. Not sure of how low...but under $25,000 I believe is income tax exempt. |
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Posted: Feb 14, 2008 - 01:33 AM
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Joined: Nov 26, 2007
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rightwinger wrote:
Where did you get the 1 million figure?
From the prestigious medical journal, the Lancet. Here's a reference:
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
I hear that the US and "Iraqi" forces are getting ready to do to Mosul what the US did to Fallujah (murder, murder, murder, ....) Does anyone in the forum know if there is still a large Armenian population in Mosul, Iraq? |
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Posted: Feb 14, 2008 - 06:11 AM
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From the prestigious medical journal, the Lancet.
The Lancet? A medical journal?
Their site required me to sign up. Didn't want to.
But you posted a site that clearly has an agenda. From that site:
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Since researchers at Johns Hopkins estimated that 601,000 violent Iraqi deaths were attributable to the U.S.-led invasion as of July 2006
That POLL was flawed.
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it necessarily does not include Iraqis who have been killed since then. We would like to update this number both to provide a more relevant day-to-day estimate of the Iraqi dead and to emphasize that the human tragedy mounts each day this brutal war continues.
ok. They want to update a number based on a flawed poll.
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This daily estimate is a rough estimate. It is not scientific; for that, another study must be conducted
So basically. They took a widely disputed number from a previous study...and started adding unscientific daily estimates.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
And a site with a clear agenda:
http://www.infoshout.com/
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I hear that the US and "Iraqi" forces are getting ready to do to Mosul what the US did to Fallujah (murder, murder, murder, ....)
Dude. I got good friends who are over there. According to them, that's not what's happening at all. |
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Posted: Feb 14, 2008 - 03:10 PM
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rightwinger wrote:
coolguyb52 wrote:
I had been reading about the stimulus package, and it does not say whether students in college who file taxes get a piece of that package (either that or I just misread it). From what I hear we don't get it as long as were dependents. Kinda strange since we technically are taxpayers if we've had a job and provided income to report to the IRS.
It depends on your income though. Not sure of how low...but under $25,000 I believe is income tax exempt.
Under $25,000 is fucking poor! |
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Posted: Mar 04, 2008 - 01:31 PM
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Hi rightwinger. It's been a busy couple of weeks, but here I am ...
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Since researchers at Johns Hopkins estimated that 601,000 violent Iraqi deaths were attributable to the U.S.-led invasion as of July 2006
That POLL was flawed.
Ah, any poll that you disagree with is flawed, hmmm?
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I hear that the US and "Iraqi" forces are getting ready to do to Mosul what the US did to Fallujah (murder, murder, murder, ....)
Dude. I got good friends who are over there. According to them, that's not what's happening at all.
Thank goodness it hasn't happened yet. But the US occupation has massacred Iraqi communities before (remember Fallujah?) and there is always the likelihood that they will do it again. Especially as Mosul continues to have a large population unwilling to completely submit to the occupiers.
Living in military city (San Antonio, Tex.) I have many neighbors, friends and family of co-workers (even in the growing local amputee community) who are and/or have been in Iraq. One thing they consistently mention is that when stationed in one part of Iraq, they have no idea of what's going on in other parts of that country. And US soldiers go over with a variety of personal motives. Some want to genuinely help the people over there. Others can't wait to see what a 50 caliber bullet can do to an Arab's head. Most just want to do their time and get back home.
My husband works in a local rehabilitation hospital where many injured US soldiers are sent to recover from their injuries. He sees a lot of amputees and people with head injuries. These poor souls will spend all day getting physical and psychological therapy--then at night they'll turn on their laptops and get film footage of battles or other daily activities of their fellow soldiers in Iraq. Even when physically away from the war, they can't entirely escape it.
Unfortunately, most Iraqis don't have the luxury of being able to escape the war. |
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Posted: Mar 31, 2008 - 02:09 PM
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Last night, Bush was booed at opening day in Washington DC (American baseball) as he threw the first pitch. It's very audible actually. I'd provide a Youtube link, but I'm at school and can't access it.
Type this into the search box on Youtube: Bush booed pitch
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