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Posted: Jun 30, 2008 - 11:57 PM
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Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 12:05 AM
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Cigaro
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cozmachina wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25457283/
My my.
What a surprise.
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Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 03:21 PM
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Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 07:42 PM
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| Fallujah wasn't really a massacre... just a war-torn city. A lot of false numbers and claims were spread immediately after the invasions too. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 08:20 PM
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Fallujah wasn't really a massacre... just a war-torn city. A lot of false numbers and claims were spread immediately after the invasions too.
well i would consider bombing the fuck out of a city until it is no longer there pretty close to a massacre |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 11:45 PM
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| Well are you talking about the H.W. Bush era or the G.W. Bush era. Because the city was invaded using marines in 2004. They chose the invasion rather than the bombings. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 12:36 AM
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i mean 2004 when the US illegally used phosphorus, destroyed some 60 mosques and killed upto 6000 civilians
"At least one prominently-placed person within the U.S. military establishment, an unnamed USAF Colonel in charge of planning urban bombing operations, has expressed grave doubts about the necessity and appropriateness of the degree of force used at Fallujah" |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 01:27 PM
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Ah. Genocide and economic carnage. What a legacy for the Bush administration.
According to the Wayne Madsen Report, foreign employees at the UN have been pulling their money out of US banks recently. http://groups.google.com/group/talk.pol ... 81954442fe
Which continues a trend ... http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008- ... 471103.htm
So it looks like people are expecting the listing dollar to go completely belly up soon.
Regarding the US military's massacre in Fallujah in 2004, I recall that the first buildings the US took out were the hospitals. They didn't want anyone to be able to come up with an accurate civilian body count. I don't doubt partisan_3's figures here. Bodies were rotting in the streets, and the dead who still had family members surviving close by were often buried in their gardens. It was just ghastly. Imagine having to bury your child or parent in your garden because soldiers would shoot you if you left your property. |
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Posted: Jul 02, 2008 - 09:07 PM
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Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 05:40 AM
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i mean 2004 when the US illegally used phosphorus, destroyed some 60 mosques and killed upto 6000 civilians
"At least one prominently-placed person within the U.S. military establishment, an unnamed USAF Colonel in charge of planning urban bombing operations, has expressed grave doubts about the necessity and appropriateness of the degree of force used at Fallujah"
Illegally used white phosphorus? Well, yeah we signed a treaty, but a law is only as good as it can be enforced. With nobody to enforce that law, weapons of all kinds will always be used in war... think back to sinking of ships in WW1. There was a law that said neutral countries ships would not be sunk, but there's no way to enforce that. Same with Wilson's idea's now that I think of it.........
There's no true way to prove that the marines leveled the mosques. An RPG/IED from hostile forces could have easily toppled a wall and such. Not to say a Marine couldn't have destroyed one. I always have a problem with the civilian counts, simply because there's always politics behind them. I wouldn't doubt a good number of people were killed though.
I guess I'm just trying to rationalize the event, I am NOT trying to argue with you.  no backstabbing insults please  |
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