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Lorax
Posted: Jul 22, 2008 - 02:05 AM  Post
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The faster the Iraqi's step up to help themselves is the faster we will be able to leave.

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Posted: Jul 22, 2008 - 01:40 PM  Post
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Ah msn sucks.....

No, I don't believe that, sorry.

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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 06:26 AM  Post
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And you can't honestly believe that we can just up and leave in three days either.

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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 01:40 PM  Post
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No, definitely not three days, less than that = TODAY!

Should have never gone in there to begin with.
Fuck!

We can do whatever we want, just like Bush did what he wanted and he is STILL doing what he wants.
We can leave anyfuckingtime.

The faster they step up BULLSHIT. We did it, we need to pack up all the concrete leggos we put down, load up the buggies and get our sorry asses home.
You wanna get more money for the troops?? How about putting that money to use to get them the fuck out of there?!

No more backdoor deals, no more fucking timetables with an I.O.U. attached to it.

NOW.

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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 06:33 PM  Post
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cozmachina wrote:
No, definitely not three days, less than that = TODAY!

Should have never gone in there to begin with.
Fuck!

We can do whatever we want, just like Bush did what he wanted and he is STILL doing what he wants.
We can leave anyfuckingtime.

The faster they step up BULLSHIT. We did it, we need to pack up all the concrete leggos we put down, load up the buggies and get our sorry asses home.
You wanna get more money for the troops?? How about putting that money to use to get them the fuck out of there?!

No more backdoor deals, no more fucking timetables with an I.O.U. attached to it.

NOW.


As much as you want to believe that

Troops in Iraq= Everyone dying, bombs dropping

it's not entirely the truth. There's alot of troops there doing good for the people, and if we evacuate too fast we could do as serious damge as we've already done. The key at this point is to commence the plan to leave in an efficient and structured manner.
 
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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 07:12 PM  Post
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We evacuate immediately = Iraq falls completely apart
We leave in a timetable = Iraq falls completely apart slowly
We stay in Iraq = Iraq falls apart as time passes

So either way you look at it...they are screwed

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Posted: Jul 24, 2008 - 08:53 PM  Post
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The faster they set up an efficient democratic gov. the better. If the Iraqi gov. does meet the needs of its people(food, housing, safety), then I doubt it would fall apart at ALL.
 
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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 03:31 AM  Post
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First of all.. im not gonna say "fuck Iraq". The civillians living there got fucked over by their own tyrannical government for years and are now getting fucked over by the USA (more so Bush). Of course i think bush shouldnt have gotten involved in crap that wasnt his to deal with in the first place, but we are one on this planet no matter what country or religious demoninations exist within it, we should help one another. Bush however isnt doing a damn thing to help the Iraqis, this "war"(that supposedly ended in 2003) is just a cover-up for that asshole and his family's never ending quest for black gold. and now he's fucking over the middle east and us (USA) as well. When he could be spending a fraction of what this waste of lives and time cost to research alternatives to making our fucking planet last longer so we can afford to have vehicles to go to work, or see a fucking blue sky from time to time, he feeding us all this bullshit propaganda and lies to spend our money on bombing villages and school houses. Wasnt this about Bin Laden and Al Qaeda attacking US soil? what the fuck happened to that? How does Iraq and the imaginary weapons of mass distruction play a part in reconciliation for September 11th? get a fucking map Bush. the only map he owns shows where all the oil is. We need a representative for this country that understands what we are here for, living life in peace, helping one another and being a better animal.
Whenever i get to vote, I'm putting Serj Tankian as a write-in candidate.

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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 06:41 AM  Post
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No, definitely not three days, less than that = TODAY!

Should have never gone in there to begin with.
Fuck!

We can do whatever we want, just like Bush did what he wanted and he is STILL doing what he wants.
We can leave anyfuckingtime.

The faster they step up BULLSHIT. We did it, we need to pack up all the concrete leggos we put down, load up the buggies and get our sorry asses home.
You wanna get more money for the troops?? How about putting that money to use to get them the fuck out of there?!

No more backdoor deals, no more fucking timetables with an I.O.U. attached to it.

NOW.


I myself wish it were only that simple. I agree we should have never gone, and I strongly believe there is no point to saving Iraq. The people of Iraq don't care about Iraq, they care about Jewish, Muslim, Shiite, Sunni.

So I disagree with the whole plan and all that, BUT we can't up and leave in 3 days (It will take that long to get the ENTIRE U.S. and U.N. forces out, regardless of any other effects.). We have to start try to start rebuilding somewhere. Although rebuilding Iraq is pointless for the reasons I previously mentioned. There is no real solution I believe.

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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 11:10 AM  Post
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They should leave the rebuilding to the revenues from Iraqi oil, rather than US companies and global dominatrix elite empires taking stakes in Iraqi oil!

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