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Posted by ZAk on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 12:47 PM
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System of a Down Ready to Perform in Turkey in Case Freedom of Speech on Stage Guaranteed
«It is beyond all understanding when a country aspires to accession to the EU and does not wish to address its own history,» stated vocalist of System Of A Down (SOAD) famous American rock band Serj Tankian in an interview with Laut German Internet newspaper.
In his words, many countries today acknowledge the crime against Armenians, however not considering it a genocide. By now the SOAD has not performed a single concert in Turkey in spite of having fans in that country.
«We had the opportunity to play in Turkey, however were there along with Slayer band. At that time we wanted to play only having stipulated that we will have full freedom of speech on the stage,» Tankian stated.
«No one wished to guarantee it to us, thus we did not play. However, we would gladly perform in Turkey for the sake of the principle,» he noted.
SOAD members come for not allowing oblivion of the Armenian Genocide in 1915.
The rule of Young Turks that came to power in 1908 started with arrests, exiles and murder of Armenians.
Up to today the Turkish Government refuses to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide. on April 24, the day of commemoration the Armenian Genocide victims, the SOAD performs a concert each year. Today more and more people speak of the Armenian Genocide again, to all appearance also due to the System Of A Down.
Reports from PanARMENIAN.Net
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Mike.b
24.05.05, 16:30
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hooray for system of a down! boo for the 1915 turks!
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snajp3r
24.05.05, 16:44
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The Turkish government sucks. The Armenian genocide is not the only forgotten genocide though. Christopher Columbus killed almost all native-american tribes when he "discovered America". Funny thing is that he didn't discover America first, and there is a special day when people salute Columbus...for what? See what happens when people forget genocides.
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[NL]HolyShit!
24.05.05, 18:26
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I am not very good with history, but i dont think Christopher Columbus killed almost "all" native american, but Pizarro did (1527).
And i think we probably all agree on the genocide, but how can a country "does not wish to address its own history" when it was only founded in 1922? Even when it is less than 100 years ago i think the world was much different than it is now; especially in that part of the world (tribes are the law). I know it are the same people but in 1908-1915 Turkey didnt exist yet...
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metalme31
24.05.05, 19:02
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Hey, i totally agree with snajp3r. there are much more stuff to learn about. of course the Armenian genocide is important, but there are a lot more. i am a native american, and im not just part cherokee like many people say, im a full blooded native american. and in my opinion christopher columbus day is one the biggest pieces of crap ive ever heard of. its a sad world we live in. so many wrong people. genocides are still very much alive today but we can still change. if we're possible, than anything is possible. p.s. the crap pulled on Leonard Peltier is total bs, do yourself a favor and learn about it.
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eSouth
24.05.05, 19:07
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Yeah, Lief Ericson discovered the New World... He killed alot of people too though. o_o
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SYSTEMISLOVE
24.05.05, 19:50
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omg if they are playing in turkey, im soo fucking there, give me a date...im so there...
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pinkscatdm
24.05.05, 19:55
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I hope they dont play in Turkey, they would be risking their lives.
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ZAk
24.05.05, 20:28
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I dont think they would play there, and if they did turkay would use it as a an opposite propaganda.. and yes there's so many forgotten genocide, in rwanda, Bosna, communism era and many more.. its fuckedup world though.. beside I'd say they play in Middile East instead, in the places they ran way and hided from the massacres
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meofcourse
24.05.05, 21:27
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yeah, snajp3r and metalme31. I agree with you, even though i am not native american. I do live in Oklahoma though, and I know a lot of (part) native americans. And the Trail of Tears was kind of like a genocide, or at least caused as much suffering as a genocide, just referred to as "relocation". It was stupid. It almost made me cry when I studied it in hisory this year. Really.
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Takavor
25.05.05, 03:14
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F*** that!!!!!!! System shouldnt play in Turkey until they've played in Armenia first...I really cant believe that Turkey is willing to host them...I guess Serj asking for a stipulation like free speech, really made them think twice about it...I would give anything to be able to see them ROCK 'Holy Moutain' and 'P.L.U.C.K.' on those F***ERS!!!! I went to panarmenian.net and didnt see anything on this...anybody hook up a link?
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pilotcuk
25.05.05, 03:29
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Come on people.. The guys talking about Armenien Genocide, what u know about Turks at all? And beside that, what u know about the term "GENOCIDE" anyway? Its a tricky word that shouldnt be used for the word "kill".. Of course Turks killed (mostly Kurds did,but anyway) Armeniens just like Armeniens did killed them.. Learn some REAL history first..
And about SOAD, they'd be most welcome here 'cause lotsa fans here waiting for them. And about the condition of free speech, there would be people willing to answer the speech, be sure.. Just don't judge something that u have only heard about.. Read both armenien and turk sources if you are interested in that much...
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laura_stef
25.05.05, 04:40
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pilotcuk is right . of course the turks should admit what they did , but if they don't that doesn't mean we should blame them for what they did a century ago . i'm romanian and i know the turks have killed a lot of romanians in the middle ages and i also know that we have killed a lot of them too. we shouldn't judge people for their parents/ grandfathers/ ancestors actions.
we have to be able to forgive, but never forget. it's history. that's what soad are saying
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phleblah
27.05.05, 04:59
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btw peeps, there is no longer a "Columbus Day" cause our government (US) recognized that he was a dick and he killed a butt load of indians, so theres at least some right in the world....
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lordbanana
29.05.05, 15:52
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sure the armenien genocide was terrible but as the last few post have showed most of you are chattin shit coz you've only heard one side of the story and just so you know in most cases things like genocides will have a reason like both sides killing each other for ages before the actual event
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pinkscatdm
29.05.05, 18:33
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pilot stop lying. im armenian and my whole family past my grandparents were killed by Turks. The Armeniand didnt kill anyone, Stop with the propganda. The Turks killed Armenians because Armenians are Christian and the Turks are muslim. I know alot about Turks, their lying mongoloids who stold everyones culture and land- Armenians, Romans, Greeks and then try to pass it off as your own. Im sorry to tell you but Armenians are stronger today than ever and The Turks and your lies about the Genocide are going down fast. Oh and you are not getting in the EU either till you stop lying.
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lordbanana
30.05.05, 15:38
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lordbanana
30.05.05, 15:39
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wow dude finally someone who knows what there talking about ye i said theres normally a reason for it and religion is a big one. most people chat on but as long as you know what your on about....
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ece
31.05.05, 08:23
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<FONT color=#000000 >haha don't make me laugh! you go study some history and then come and talk with me. well i'm a turk, ok? the ones who say, "turks killed armenians for religious reaons"; look, now i live in istanbul. and i have ARMENIAN neighbours. we get on VERY WELL. their child goes to an armeian school, and they live well. got it?
the word GENOCIDE means, killing all the group of people of one race, eliminating them completely. so what do they have to do in istanbul, in other cities of turkey? can you tell me this?
i'm NOT saying, turks didn't kill Armenians. it was a war strategy, can't you understand that? so let me tell you, russia was planning to attack the ottoman empire from the east side of turkey, -where armenians were living- and they were planning to do that by making armenians rebel against the ottoman empire.so the empire decided to force armenians to IMMIGRATE from that district. and during the immigration a lot of armenians died, beacuse of cold, diseases, ottoman soldiers killed the ones who rebel vs. and these are the things happenin in all the wars. and by this way, you can say that, "turks caused armenians die" that's right. but i wonder why armenians just dealing with the thing that happened years ago, why they do not just look around and see what's happening at the moment, and they never tell a word to USA for example....
and another point, that's the thing happened in the TIMES of OTTOMAN EMPIRE. now there's not someting like "ottoman empire". we have a new turkish republic, which is founded as a result of rebelling people against the empire's wrong policy. so you can't blame turkish republic for that. got it?
well i tried to tell in a clear and simple way, i hope all of you can undertstand me.
look, at least we have one common point: we all like SOAD here :)
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